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Why create a bunch of rules to keep things fair? Man vs machine is never going to be fair once we have the machine to do it. Before deep blue or alphaGo, yea it

Why create a bunch of rules to keep things fair? Man vs machine is never going to be fair once we have the machine to do it. Before deep blue or alphaGo, yea it'll be a fun event. Once the machine exists, we check off another box in the list of things that machines can now do, and we move on with our lives. Though on the topic of the movement aspect of boxing, machines are still pretty bad at keeping their balance and moving around the world, even without limitations.

mikeash 11y ago
Don't create new rules, just keep existing ones. The rules I found on worldchessboxing.com (every time I see the phrase "chess boxing" it makes me laugh) say that the chess clock must be pressed with the same hand that moves the piece, so apparently the computer is going to need hands (well, one hand). They also say that it's the player's responsibility to press their own clock between moves, so that rules out any outside help for moving pieces. I note that the players are allowed to bring water to the chess table. I'm not sure if there's a rule against pouring it on your opponent. The computer might need to take this into account.
- chillacy 11y ago
  I think a <200lb bipedal 2-arm robot which could box would be a marvel to see, but if there aren't any rules which say how many arms and legs the combatant has to have, the robot is gonna have wheels, most of its mass in the lower body so as to make it un-topplable, be made of some lightweight metal, and have an arm that plays chess and a boxing glove on an actuator that can break concrete. And on the point of existing rules, the existing rules aren't enough for this type of competition. First of all the weight class: are robots men or women? It says age 17+, how does that affect the robot? There's no rule against pouring water on the robot, but there also isn't a rule against releasing nerve gas. My robot is a pourous metal box with a canister of gas which renders everyone unconscious, do I win by K/O? Also, they already have battle robots, and they look nothing like conventional humans (one common design is a flat panel that slides under the opponent and jettisons them) As for reaction speed of man (100+ms vs machine), I'll just link this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nxjjztQKtY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nxjjztQKtY
  - mikeash 11y ago
    > nerve gas This tournament is sounding better and better all the time!

mikeash 11y ago

Don't create new rules, just keep existing ones. The rules I found on worldchessboxing.com (every time I see the phrase "chess boxing" it makes me laugh) say that the chess clock must be pressed with the same hand that moves the piece, so apparently the computer is going to need hands (well, one hand). They also say that it's the player's responsibility to press their own clock between moves, so that rules out any outside help for moving pieces. I note that the players are allowed to bring water to the chess table. I'm not sure if there's a rule against pouring it on your opponent. The computer might need to take this into account.

chillacy 11y ago
I think a <200lb bipedal 2-arm robot which could box would be a marvel to see, but if there aren't any rules which say how many arms and legs the combatant has to have, the robot is gonna have wheels, most of its mass in the lower body so as to make it un-topplable, be made of some lightweight metal, and have an arm that plays chess and a boxing glove on an actuator that can break concrete. And on the point of existing rules, the existing rules aren't enough for this type of competition. First of all the weight class: are robots men or women? It says age 17+, how does that affect the robot? There's no rule against pouring water on the robot, but there also isn't a rule against releasing nerve gas. My robot is a pourous metal box with a canister of gas which renders everyone unconscious, do I win by K/O? Also, they already have battle robots, and they look nothing like conventional humans (one common design is a flat panel that slides under the opponent and jettisons them) As for reaction speed of man (100+ms vs machine), I'll just link this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nxjjztQKtY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nxjjztQKtY
- mikeash 11y ago
  > nerve gas This tournament is sounding better and better all the time!