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But why would the NSA believe that she would set up her own server? Other Secretaries of State hadn't done anything like that.

Someone1234 11y ago
The article kind of dropped that line randomly in. Her email server and this issue (Blackberry or Black Phone in the state's SCIF) are completely unconnected. I don't know how or why they're trying to connect the two. I find this issue interesting in its own right, but see it as nothing to do with her email server (which is already interesting but different).
- culturestate 11y ago
  I took that to mean that she couldn't hook a civilian Blackberry to her official .gov account, so the personal email server was set up to service her personal Blackberry.
rrmm 11y ago
Previous SoSs didn't make extensive use of it, or like Rice, got exceptions. If the security apparatus doesn't allow people to get their job done, people will find ways to solve their own problems. For example, you could certainly ban all internet use. It would render moot a huge amount of security problems, but people wouldn't abide it. So you have to find the trade off that the user and the security people find acceptable.
- rrmm 11y ago
  I would like to point out that it doesn't excuse her action: You have to abide by the rules even when they are dumb. But it's a tension between rules and human nature that comes up often. It's like telling teenagers the only safe sex is no sex, and then not teaching them anything else about sex, because they shouldn't be having sex. You're going to have a bad time trying to make that work.
bbatha 11y ago
> Other Secretaries of State hadn't done anything like that. They actually have, the FBI is auditing the last 4 Secretaries of State and has found similar use of private email servers [1]. Outside of the state department the Bush administration was rife with the use of private, RNC managed email servers [2]. 1. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-cla... 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controv...
- barney54 11y ago
  None of these guys used their private email exclusively for government business. That is the key. They all had State Department email. Clinton did not. ALL of her email was on her private server.

Someone1234 11y ago

The article kind of dropped that line randomly in. Her email server and this issue (Blackberry or Black Phone in the state's SCIF) are completely unconnected. I don't know how or why they're trying to connect the two. I find this issue interesting in its own right, but see it as nothing to do with her email server (which is already interesting but different).

culturestate 11y ago
I took that to mean that she couldn't hook a civilian Blackberry to her official .gov account, so the personal email server was set up to service her personal Blackberry.

rrmm 11y ago

Previous SoSs didn't make extensive use of it, or like Rice, got exceptions. If the security apparatus doesn't allow people to get their job done, people will find ways to solve their own problems. For example, you could certainly ban all internet use. It would render moot a huge amount of security problems, but people wouldn't abide it. So you have to find the trade off that the user and the security people find acceptable.

rrmm 11y ago
I would like to point out that it doesn't excuse her action: You have to abide by the rules even when they are dumb. But it's a tension between rules and human nature that comes up often. It's like telling teenagers the only safe sex is no sex, and then not teaching them anything else about sex, because they shouldn't be having sex. You're going to have a bad time trying to make that work.

bbatha 11y ago

> Other Secretaries of State hadn't done anything like that. They actually have, the FBI is auditing the last 4 Secretaries of State and has found similar use of private email servers [1]. Outside of the state department the Bush administration was rife with the use of private, RNC managed email servers [2]. 1. http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-classified-data-found-ex-secretaries-personal-email-john-kerry-condeleezza-rice-colin-powell.html?_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/05/us/politics/state-dept-cla... 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controversy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_White_House_email_controv...

barney54 11y ago
None of these guys used their private email exclusively for government business. That is the key. They all had State Department email. Clinton did not. ALL of her email was on her private server.