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Oh, gee, I don't know. The first recent thing that comes to my mind and involves ML is a package for fingerprinting software via changes in computer's power con

Oh, gee, I don't know. The first recent thing that comes to my mind and involves ML is a package for fingerprinting software via changes in computer's power consumption. Not just that, but using it to detect malware on medical devices (which often run decades-old OSes and aren't upgradeable). Is that groundbreaking enough for you?

mynameisvlad 11y ago
That's "just" figuring out what's running on a computer.
burkaman 11y ago
I assume you're talking about this company? http://www.pfpcyber.com/ http://www.pfpcyber.com/ That's super cool, but no I wouldn't say it's more impressive or groundbreaking than AlphaGo. They're both obviously incredibly impressive though. I guess I don't get the point you're trying to make. Why does something have to be practical to be impressive? And why don't you think the technology used in AlphaGo is practical?
astrange 11y ago
Sounds like these medical devices are upgradeable if you can install malware on them.
- CocaKoala 11y ago
  So there's a lot of regulation and compliance stuff that you run into if you start dealing with computers in a medical context. On the face of it, this makes sense; you don't want to install software that hasn't been rigorously tested and approved, because the cost of having a computer fail can be human lives. If you have something that works, it's hard to get the inertia to change it because by the time you've finished testing a new piece of software to make sure it's as stable as you need, it's already out of date. So in one sense, those machines are unupgradable; you can't upgrade them without violating a number of laws and regulations. In another sense, they're trivially upgradable; if you don't care about violating laws and regulations, you've got a playground with a number of highly documented vulnerabilities and publicized exploits. The sorts of people who would install malware on those computers are the sorts of people who aren't really fussed about "laws and regulations"; that's not a position that people running a hospital are really able to take, though.

mynameisvlad 11y ago

That's "just" figuring out what's running on a computer.

burkaman 11y ago

I assume you're talking about this company? http://www.pfpcyber.com/ http://www.pfpcyber.com/ That's super cool, but no I wouldn't say it's more impressive or groundbreaking than AlphaGo. They're both obviously incredibly impressive though. I guess I don't get the point you're trying to make. Why does something have to be practical to be impressive? And why don't you think the technology used in AlphaGo is practical?

astrange 11y ago

Sounds like these medical devices are upgradeable if you can install malware on them.

CocaKoala 11y ago
So there's a lot of regulation and compliance stuff that you run into if you start dealing with computers in a medical context. On the face of it, this makes sense; you don't want to install software that hasn't been rigorously tested and approved, because the cost of having a computer fail can be human lives. If you have something that works, it's hard to get the inertia to change it because by the time you've finished testing a new piece of software to make sure it's as stable as you need, it's already out of date. So in one sense, those machines are unupgradable; you can't upgrade them without violating a number of laws and regulations. In another sense, they're trivially upgradable; if you don't care about violating laws and regulations, you've got a playground with a number of highly documented vulnerabilities and publicized exploits. The sorts of people who would install malware on those computers are the sorts of people who aren't really fussed about "laws and regulations"; that's not a position that people running a hospital are really able to take, though.