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ICQ -> MSN -> Facebook -> Snapchat

by obilgic 11y ago

kamilafsar 11y ago
x86 Assembly -> C -> C++ -> JavaScript edit: Okay, I get why I'm being downvoted. :) But I just wanted to say, apparently in a vague way, that evolutions happen. People don't invest their precious time just because something is "hip". Apparently they solve a problem of their predecessor.
- atomic_cheese 11y ago
  C++ to JS is a pretty huge jump. C++ -> Java -> JS might work better.
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  - pori 11y ago
    Don't forget the apparent JS -> Go
  - yeukhon 11y ago
    Hey you miss PHP, Ruby, Python. The new hotness is called Rust.
- nickpsecurity 11y ago
  More like LISP -> ML's -> C++, Java, C#, Ocaml -> Rust, Julia, Clojure, and the other better ones. :P
ajmurmann 11y ago
Facebook's userbase is still going strong though. Facebook also has a moat, since you cannot just move, because Facebook is where your friends are. With Slack, my company can decide to move and there are no other dependencies on anything external. We just move and that's it.
- toyg 11y ago
  The moat is the integration points. The real differentiators for Slack are centralized history (better than IRC) and easy web endpoints for integration (better than pretty much anyone else). After a company invests significantly in a myriad of integration tools (both external and homegrown), they have little incentive to move. That's Slack's moat. Still, they have no real presence in the consumer space and that makes them vulnerable to the first player that can really cater to both businesses and consumers. As it is, consumer vendors (MS/Skype, Facebook, Google) are fumbling in the biz space, but that will not last forever. Edit: have a look at Slack 3rd-party apps for what i mean by integration. Because it's so easy to build them, there are tons.
  - ajmurmann 11y ago
    When you say integration, I assume that goes beyond the chat bots that we have seen on other platforms since ages?
yeukhon 11y ago
You forgot Yahoo Messenger and AIM. Before Snapchat it was iMessage, WhatsApp (still extremely popular). ICQ -> MSN & Yahoo Messenger & AIM -> SMS (sidekick phone!) -> iMessage & Facebook (the age of iPhone) -> WhatsApp -> Snapchat Hey, 56k was a real thing ;-)

ICQ -> MSN -> Facebook -> Snapchat

by obilgic 11y ago

ICQ -> MSN -> Facebook -> Snapchat

x86 Assembly -> C -> C++ -> JavaScript edit: Okay, I get why I'm being downvoted. :) But I just wanted to say, apparently in a vague way, that evolutions happen. People don't invest their precious time just because something is "hip". Apparently they solve a problem of their predecessor.

atomic_cheese 11y ago
C++ to JS is a pretty huge jump. C++ -> Java -> JS might work better.
- deleted 11y ago
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- pori 11y ago
  Don't forget the apparent JS -> Go
- yeukhon 11y ago
  Hey you miss PHP, Ruby, Python. The new hotness is called Rust.
nickpsecurity 11y ago
More like LISP -> ML's -> C++, Java, C#, Ocaml -> Rust, Julia, Clojure, and the other better ones. :P

ajmurmann 11y ago

Facebook's userbase is still going strong though. Facebook also has a moat, since you cannot just move, because Facebook is where your friends are. With Slack, my company can decide to move and there are no other dependencies on anything external. We just move and that's it.

toyg 11y ago
The moat is the integration points. The real differentiators for Slack are centralized history (better than IRC) and easy web endpoints for integration (better than pretty much anyone else). After a company invests significantly in a myriad of integration tools (both external and homegrown), they have little incentive to move. That's Slack's moat. Still, they have no real presence in the consumer space and that makes them vulnerable to the first player that can really cater to both businesses and consumers. As it is, consumer vendors (MS/Skype, Facebook, Google) are fumbling in the biz space, but that will not last forever. Edit: have a look at Slack 3rd-party apps for what i mean by integration. Because it's so easy to build them, there are tons.
- ajmurmann 11y ago
  When you say integration, I assume that goes beyond the chat bots that we have seen on other platforms since ages?

yeukhon 11y ago

You forgot Yahoo Messenger and AIM. Before Snapchat it was iMessage, WhatsApp (still extremely popular). ICQ -> MSN & Yahoo Messenger & AIM -> SMS (sidekick phone!) -> iMessage & Facebook (the age of iPhone) -> WhatsApp -> Snapchat Hey, 56k was a real thing ;-)