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It's possible it's a reference to her voice. But not having met her, I don't know. It's also possible, that were she a big burly guy they might not have treated

by steverb 11y ago

It's possible it's a reference to her voice. But not having met her, I don't know. It's also possible, that were she a big burly guy they might not have treated her the same way. Either way, it sounds like the place handled it appropriately, which is awesome.

oh_sigh 11y ago
> It's also possible, that were she a big burly guy they might not have treated her the same way. Sure, but he may have just been referred to as a meat head, a dumb lug, etc. Also, the lady was in charge of enforcing safety rules. People almost always hate that person, even if they are saving their asses. See how OSHA reps are treated on job sites as an example.
- steverb 11y ago
  Definitely true. Heck, I hate the OSHA guy myself, and the union enforcement guy, and anyone else who it seems is trying to keep me from just getting shit done.
digler999 11y ago
> were she a big burly guy Is that really a gender issue, or is it a threatening-demeanor issue ? What if she were a vociferous, large black woman who had an aggressive, threatening personality ? Still a woman, but at least as big of a "perceived threat" as a "big, burly guy". What if she were a rail-thin effeminate homosexual male ? Lower perceived "threat level", perhaps would have earned her the same nickname ? one of the many issues that makes this gender-division thing murky is that a lot of the time, but not always, men are physically larger and more aggressive. I suspect that more testosterone generally yields higher aggressiveness (and I've experienced this first-hand after weight lifting at the gym and generally feeling more aggressive ). My point is, its human nature to defer to a more aggressive human, and while gender typically has some correlation, it could be the aggressiveness (not always the gender) responsible for womens' collective withdrawal from the field.

by steverb 11y ago

oh_sigh 11y ago

> It's also possible, that were she a big burly guy they might not have treated her the same way. Sure, but he may have just been referred to as a meat head, a dumb lug, etc. Also, the lady was in charge of enforcing safety rules. People almost always hate that person, even if they are saving their asses. See how OSHA reps are treated on job sites as an example.

steverb 11y ago
Definitely true. Heck, I hate the OSHA guy myself, and the union enforcement guy, and anyone else who it seems is trying to keep me from just getting shit done.

digler999 11y ago

> were she a big burly guy Is that really a gender issue, or is it a threatening-demeanor issue ? What if she were a vociferous, large black woman who had an aggressive, threatening personality ? Still a woman, but at least as big of a "perceived threat" as a "big, burly guy". What if she were a rail-thin effeminate homosexual male ? Lower perceived "threat level", perhaps would have earned her the same nickname ? one of the many issues that makes this gender-division thing murky is that a lot of the time, but not always, men are physically larger and more aggressive. I suspect that more testosterone generally yields higher aggressiveness (and I've experienced this first-hand after weight lifting at the gym and generally feeling more aggressive ). My point is, its human nature to defer to a more aggressive human, and while gender typically has some correlation, it could be the aggressiveness (not always the gender) responsible for womens' collective withdrawal from the field.