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Business exist to make money for their owners, the fact that "society" values children is not relevant and should not be. >For the same reason some of your tax

Business exist to make money for their owners, the fact that "society" values children is not relevant and should not be. >For the same reason some of your taxes go to schools and, at least here in Germany, pay for child benefits. I believe taxation is theft, and parents should pay for their children to go to school. Business and others may volunteer their money to non-profits, and other endeavors that also have to goal of educating children but that support should be fully voluntary not done by government force/violence.

pbreit 11y ago
If you believe taxation is theft you're on the wrong planet.
- the_ancient 11y ago
  Theft is the involuntary taking of a persons property, money, or labor. Taxation is the involuntary taking of a persons property, money or labor by government simply adding "by government" does not magically transform it into something other than theft... Allow me to quote one of my favorite political philosophers "The fact is that the government, like a highwayman, says to a man: Your money, or your life. And many, if not most, taxes are paid under the compulsion of that threat. The government does not, indeed, waylay a man in a lonely place, spring upon him from the road side, and, holding a pistol to his head, proceed to rifle his pockets. But the robbery is none the less a robbery on that account; and it is far more dastardly and shameful." --Lysander Spooner
  - bryanlarsen 11y ago
    Without society, you'd be a subsistence farmer. Are you a subsistence farmer? If not, then some of your income is due to society.
    - the_ancient 11y ago
      WOW... What a false dilemma fallacy.. Further to believe that Statism, Violence Statism via involuntary taxation at that, is the only way to have a organized and functional society is just ignorant I am sure you believe Libertarianism is Dangerous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNFJK1ZpVg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNFJK1ZpVg
      - bryanlarsen 11y ago
        Just responding with one reductio ad absurdum with another reductio ad absurdum, since you only seem to understand black and white.
- baddox 11y ago
  Do you have any other planet recommendations? There are some good arguments for taxation, but this isn't one of them. You could just as easily say "if you believe murder is wrong you're on the wrong planet."

pbreit 11y ago

If you believe taxation is theft you're on the wrong planet.

the_ancient 11y ago
Theft is the involuntary taking of a persons property, money, or labor. Taxation is the involuntary taking of a persons property, money or labor by government simply adding "by government" does not magically transform it into something other than theft... Allow me to quote one of my favorite political philosophers "The fact is that the government, like a highwayman, says to a man: Your money, or your life. And many, if not most, taxes are paid under the compulsion of that threat. The government does not, indeed, waylay a man in a lonely place, spring upon him from the road side, and, holding a pistol to his head, proceed to rifle his pockets. But the robbery is none the less a robbery on that account; and it is far more dastardly and shameful." --Lysander Spooner
- bryanlarsen 11y ago
  Without society, you'd be a subsistence farmer. Are you a subsistence farmer? If not, then some of your income is due to society.
  - the_ancient 11y ago
    WOW... What a false dilemma fallacy.. Further to believe that Statism, Violence Statism via involuntary taxation at that, is the only way to have a organized and functional society is just ignorant I am sure you believe Libertarianism is Dangerous https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNFJK1ZpVg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbNFJK1ZpVg
    - bryanlarsen 11y ago
      Just responding with one reductio ad absurdum with another reductio ad absurdum, since you only seem to understand black and white.
baddox 11y ago
Do you have any other planet recommendations? There are some good arguments for taxation, but this isn't one of them. You could just as easily say "if you believe murder is wrong you're on the wrong planet."