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I'm not entirely sure the 1984 ad / counterculture / 'question authority' ethos is baked into other major smartphone companies quite like it is with Apple. I do

by NamTaf 11y ago

I'm not entirely sure the 1984 ad / counterculture / 'question authority' ethos is baked into other major smartphone companies quite like it is with Apple. I don't get the feeling that we would've seen the same reaction from any of the others. I also draw attention to Jobs' spiel about the intersection of Technology and Liberal Arts. It's baked into Apple, and I think this is in part a manifestation of that.

rogersmith 11y ago
Get off Steve Jobs cock, Apple is to "counterculture" what Elvis Presley is to rhythm and blues. Walled gardens are sooooo counterculture init?
a_imho 11y ago
I guess smart taxation can be called questioning authority, but claiming moral highground for [1] will be a bit hard. There are different theories how Apple was able to struck gold with iPhone, but their success is what forcing them taking their stance. I find a bit disingenuous trying to spin this story how Apple trying to do the right thing for the people, glorifying for profit companies goes against common sense. They are doing what they deem best protects their interests, if it happens to lead to better privacy is merely a side effect, and I would argue it is thanks to all the people who were raising awareness. 1. http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/10/apple-google-microsoft-hold-more-than-336b-overseas-via-legal-tax-loopholes/ http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/10/apple-google-microso...
- NamTaf 11y ago
  I completely agree that it's not singular throughout their culture (specifically w.r.t the taxation issues you raise), but I would not be surprised if in an alternate universe where Jobs etc. didn't care about that stuff, Apple just quietly complied with the cops in this case and we as the public never heard about it. Do you truly believe that 'Apple' or any other company couldn't spin this as holding the key to the feds doing this and thus making sure they comply with the full legal processes we expect of them, rather than letting them hack into the phones and thus circumvent the warrant process?

by NamTaf 11y ago

rogersmith 11y ago

Get off Steve Jobs cock, Apple is to "counterculture" what Elvis Presley is to rhythm and blues. Walled gardens are sooooo counterculture init?

a_imho 11y ago

I guess smart taxation can be called questioning authority, but claiming moral highground for [1] will be a bit hard. There are different theories how Apple was able to struck gold with iPhone, but their success is what forcing them taking their stance. I find a bit disingenuous trying to spin this story how Apple trying to do the right thing for the people, glorifying for profit companies goes against common sense. They are doing what they deem best protects their interests, if it happens to lead to better privacy is merely a side effect, and I would argue it is thanks to all the people who were raising awareness. 1. http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/10/apple-google-microsoft-hold-more-than-336b-overseas-via-legal-tax-loopholes/ http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/10/apple-google-microso...

NamTaf 11y ago
I completely agree that it's not singular throughout their culture (specifically w.r.t the taxation issues you raise), but I would not be surprised if in an alternate universe where Jobs etc. didn't care about that stuff, Apple just quietly complied with the cops in this case and we as the public never heard about it. Do you truly believe that 'Apple' or any other company couldn't spin this as holding the key to the feds doing this and thus making sure they comply with the full legal processes we expect of them, rather than letting them hack into the phones and thus circumvent the warrant process?