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Your comment is pretty useless to the majority of people who want to simply protect their internet activity in the most easily accessible way.
by chuckit 11y ago
Your comment is pretty useless to the majority of people who want to simply protect their internet activity in the most easily accessible way.
- mjs7231 11y agoHis argument is also flawed in that he says you need to roll your own because the VPN service providers can be compromised. Well, where are you going to run your server then? Any endpoint can be compromised by the business that owns it weather it be your ISP, AWS, or whatever else you plan to use.
- bigiain 11y agoAgreed. You need to determine who your adversary is (at least the category of adversary they're in). If your adversary is The NSA, you're probably fucked already - get off the internet. If your adversary is your local drug or anti-terror law enforcement, they're probably getting "hints" from the NSA and likely parallel reconstructing evidence against you based on that. If your adversary is closer to local cops, MPAA/RIAA, your boss, your parents, your ex-wife's lawyer, or your ISP - this list provides a great deal of useful information.
- narrowrail 11y agoWhat if your adversary is the pervasive data collection entities in the business of selling eyeballs (aka ad networks and that related ecosystem)?
- bigiain 11y agoGood question - I guess the quick answer is "the most anonymous and secure VPN in the universe isn't going to help if you browse to pages with Facebook like buttons in the same browser where you've got an actively logged in Facebook session - or even non-logged-in session cookies". (Substitute Twitter/Google/Yahoo/whoever as appropriate) Browser/cookie hygiene is orthogonal to VPN/network hygiene.
- borski 11y agoI'm not convinced signing up with one of the existing VPN services is any significantly easier than signing up with Digital Ocean or Rackspace, and using the Tinfoil creator service. Have you tried it?
- chuckit 11y agoNope. Sounds too complicated.
- borski 11y agoNot entirely certain how one signup form is more complicated than another, but I recommend trying it before judging it.
- chuckit 11y agoI'm sure it's simple for someone who is familiar with the technology, but what about everyone else? How would your average Joe know which DigitalOcean plan to sign up for, or which settings to apply?
- borski 11y agoWe tell them, right on the page. We even give you a coupon so it's free. There are no settings to apply. The steps are: 1) Make a DigitalOcean or Rackspace account. 2) Make an API key by clicking <link> and hitting the button. 3) Insert it in this box. 4) Hit go. That's it. Then you download/install the client (like you would with any other VPN service) and you're done. You don't need to know anything about the droplet size, or anything else. Quite literally, my mom has done this, and she sells clothing for a living and is not technically adept.
- rue 11y agoIt’s less work if you need to use multiple locations for geocircumvention, at least. I’m happy to pay somebody 5/mo to handle that + patching etc. etc.