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Why is that? If certain tales of the dark net are to be believed, it has enabled an unprecedented level of communication between abusers of children. Seems li

Why is that? If certain tales of the dark net are to be believed, it has enabled an unprecedented level of communication between abusers of children. Seems like an obvious "con" of widely-available secure communication. If you believe the "pros" outweigh it, say so, but don't pretend it isn't relevant.

sbov 11y ago
Because it's usually used to emotionally manipulate people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children
bsder 11y ago
Because it is an argument that people fall back on when rational arguments are failing. In addition, the "child pornography" that people want to use as justification is REALLY RARE. The biggest kiddie porn bust in the history of the US was Operation Delego which had 600 members worldwide. Most of whom were busted with good, old fashioned police work. Now, let's talk about the common "child pornography"--Suzie has naked selfies on her phone. Do you really think that Johnny won't go to a dodgy Chinese site to get the iPhone crack to let him see those? Relevant Dilbert: http://dilbert.com/strip/1996-01-24 http://dilbert.com/strip/1996-01-24
EdHominem 11y ago
Because the story is essentially a lie. The numbers, and the financial complicity, and the crypto-capabilities. There's no pedo-mafia. Also that and there are so many more successful ways to catch molestation that we aren't taking. It's not that molestation and exploitation isn't bad, but when you see someone ranting about it you can be pretty sure they're just doing it to push a political goal. It's an obvious call for censorship and more agency funding. If the list of relevant things could only be five-thousand items long, this wouldn't even be on it. And then we get to the cons, many of which are potentially Orwellian.

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Why is that? If certain tales of the dark net are to be believed, it has enabled an unprecedented level of communication between abusers of children. Seems li

by neutronicus 11y ago

sbov 11y ago
Because it's usually used to emotionally manipulate people. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children
bsder 11y ago
Because it is an argument that people fall back on when rational arguments are failing. In addition, the "child pornography" that people want to use as justification is REALLY RARE. The biggest kiddie porn bust in the history of the US was Operation Delego which had 600 members worldwide. Most of whom were busted with good, old fashioned police work. Now, let's talk about the common "child pornography"--Suzie has naked selfies on her phone. Do you really think that Johnny won't go to a dodgy Chinese site to get the iPhone crack to let him see those? Relevant Dilbert: http://dilbert.com/strip/1996-01-24 http://dilbert.com/strip/1996-01-24
EdHominem 11y ago
Because the story is essentially a lie. The numbers, and the financial complicity, and the crypto-capabilities. There's no pedo-mafia. Also that and there are so many more successful ways to catch molestation that we aren't taking. It's not that molestation and exploitation isn't bad, but when you see someone ranting about it you can be pretty sure they're just doing it to push a political goal. It's an obvious call for censorship and more agency funding. If the list of relevant things could only be five-thousand items long, this wouldn't even be on it. And then we get to the cons, many of which are potentially Orwellian.