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Any interview I've ever had where HR is involved is somewhere I would never work. Last time this happened I was informed that Russian and Indian are races. Tal

Any interview I've ever had where HR is involved is somewhere I would never work. Last time this happened I was informed that Russian and Indian are races. Talking about my coworkers by their country of origin (I was saying how refreshing it was to work with a broad array of people in SF vs what I normally work with [white male] in Oklahoma.) Russian is a race. Seriously. HR employees are worthless in my experience (~35 years in the labor force).

logfromblammo 11y ago
Only worthless? You've been lucky. I have learned from my experience that HR is at best an enormous obstruction that must be continually worked around, and is at worst an enemy to whom you should never show your back. Or your belly, for that matter.
Chris2048 11y ago
> (I was saying how refreshing it was to work with a broad array of people in SF vs what I normally work with [white male] in Oklahoma That's a dickish thing to say about white men :-/
- iolothebard 11y ago
  How is this a dickish thing to say about white men. I am a white man. Having worked with 1 woman in 15 years in Oklahoma & Texas in development I worked with roughly 60/40 (men to women) developer teams in the Bay Area. Also the broad array of cultures and experiences brings different opinions to the table as well. It wasn't intended as a slant against white men, it was more a happy dividend that I didn't realize I was missing (diversity). SF is rather diverse, but in IT competency still matters far more than gender, race, etc.
  - Chris2048 11y ago
    I don't doubt you're a white man, but it makes no difference. What exactly are you, as an individual, missing in terms of diversity? > "the broad array of cultures and experiences brings different opinions to the table" Technical opinions? What does this mean exactly? This is the bad implication I was talking about, that a group of white males is somehow deficient relative to any group of people.
    - iolothebard 11y ago
      It's like having a discussion with a wall. Have a nice day :-)
      - Chris2048 11y ago
        You think insults aren't insults if you add a nicety on the end? Clearly I didn't read what you wrote, otherwise I'd be agreeing with you already, right? Or you're just spouting mindless diversity soundbite rhetoric..

logfromblammo 11y ago

Only worthless? You've been lucky. I have learned from my experience that HR is at best an enormous obstruction that must be continually worked around, and is at worst an enemy to whom you should never show your back. Or your belly, for that matter.

Chris2048 11y ago

> (I was saying how refreshing it was to work with a broad array of people in SF vs what I normally work with [white male] in Oklahoma That's a dickish thing to say about white men :-/

iolothebard 11y ago
How is this a dickish thing to say about white men. I am a white man. Having worked with 1 woman in 15 years in Oklahoma & Texas in development I worked with roughly 60/40 (men to women) developer teams in the Bay Area. Also the broad array of cultures and experiences brings different opinions to the table as well. It wasn't intended as a slant against white men, it was more a happy dividend that I didn't realize I was missing (diversity). SF is rather diverse, but in IT competency still matters far more than gender, race, etc.
- Chris2048 11y ago
  I don't doubt you're a white man, but it makes no difference. What exactly are you, as an individual, missing in terms of diversity? > "the broad array of cultures and experiences brings different opinions to the table" Technical opinions? What does this mean exactly? This is the bad implication I was talking about, that a group of white males is somehow deficient relative to any group of people.
  - iolothebard 11y ago
    It's like having a discussion with a wall. Have a nice day :-)
    - Chris2048 11y ago
      You think insults aren't insults if you add a nicety on the end? Clearly I didn't read what you wrote, otherwise I'd be agreeing with you already, right? Or you're just spouting mindless diversity soundbite rhetoric..