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I think it's irresponsible to not take reasonable precautions with guns. I keep mine in a GunVault. But mandating that by law and assigning liability to the own

I think it's irresponsible to not take reasonable precautions with guns. I keep mine in a GunVault. But mandating that by law and assigning liability to the owner is a slippery slope. I agree it makes sense with guns, but if someone breaks into my house looking for prescription medicines and I failed to adequately label poison, am I liable? If they ban guns and an armed robber breaks into my house, are the politicians who wrote the law liable?

piyush_soni 11y ago
To this and all such similar analogies, sure, anything can be used to kill, but let's talk about only the things whose primary purpose is to kill. Like Guns. Bombs. Canons. etc. Now one might argue that the "primary purpose" for them is their safety and not killing, but no, it's not. That is assuming safety by creating a 'threat of getting killed' to the opponent. I know this punishment is little harsh (and should be decided on per case basis based on the level of negligence) - but we should also agree that if there's no punishment whatsoever - this will continue happening. Mass killings is a real problem that needs to be solved, and most of them get access to guns in their mom's drawers or something like that.
- ende 11y ago
  Canons? Now I've gotta look up the CDC numbers on canon deaths for last year. I wonder how many died from grape shot vs cannister rounds?
  - piyush_soni 11y ago
    Figure of speech.
thinkcontext 11y ago
I don't think your drug analogy is right, there most certainly are laws that mandate secure storage of dangerous items, explosives, animals, chemicals, etc. A more apt one would be an explosives store owner that locked their front door but didn't store their explosives in a safe. If someone broke in and stole the explosives wouldn't you expect the owner to be in big trouble? A significant number of guns used in crimes are stolen, so its too bad that more gun owners don't believe in secure storage like you do. I don't get your "slippery slope" comment, could you expand on this more?
nadezhda18 11y ago
If this person poisons a dozen or ppl with your poison - yes the hell you are responsible! edit: if you were a business that works with poisons and you did not provide adequate security measures, you would be so fined if someone steals the poisons. Then why you as individual wouldn't be responsible for the same thing.

piyush_soni 11y ago

To this and all such similar analogies, sure, anything can be used to kill, but let's talk about only the things whose primary purpose is to kill. Like Guns. Bombs. Canons. etc. Now one might argue that the "primary purpose" for them is their safety and not killing, but no, it's not. That is assuming safety by creating a 'threat of getting killed' to the opponent. I know this punishment is little harsh (and should be decided on per case basis based on the level of negligence) - but we should also agree that if there's no punishment whatsoever - this will continue happening. Mass killings is a real problem that needs to be solved, and most of them get access to guns in their mom's drawers or something like that.

ende 11y ago
Canons? Now I've gotta look up the CDC numbers on canon deaths for last year. I wonder how many died from grape shot vs cannister rounds?
- piyush_soni 11y ago
  Figure of speech.

thinkcontext 11y ago

I don't think your drug analogy is right, there most certainly are laws that mandate secure storage of dangerous items, explosives, animals, chemicals, etc. A more apt one would be an explosives store owner that locked their front door but didn't store their explosives in a safe. If someone broke in and stole the explosives wouldn't you expect the owner to be in big trouble? A significant number of guns used in crimes are stolen, so its too bad that more gun owners don't believe in secure storage like you do. I don't get your "slippery slope" comment, could you expand on this more?

nadezhda18 11y ago

If this person poisons a dozen or ppl with your poison - yes the hell you are responsible! edit: if you were a business that works with poisons and you did not provide adequate security measures, you would be so fined if someone steals the poisons. Then why you as individual wouldn't be responsible for the same thing.