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Before you comment, please consider whether you'd prefer to vent your frustration in online message boards with like-minded people, or spend that potential ener

by jccc 11y ago

Before you comment, please consider whether you'd prefer to vent your frustration in online message boards with like-minded people, or spend that potential energy in other ways: "What you can do about it: -- You can contact the Obama White House online to comment on strong encryption. https://www.whitehouse.gov/webform/share-your-thoughts-onstrong-encryption https://www.whitehouse.gov/webform/share-your-thoughts-onstr... -- You can contact your state Senators and Representatives via the contact information supplied by ContactingTheCongress.org. http://www.contactingthecongress.org/ http://www.contactingthecongress.org/ -- You can specifically contact Senators Richard Burr (R-NC) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA) to express concerns about their bill intended to force companies to weaken or work around encryption under court orders. http://www.contactingthecongress.org/cgi-bin/newseek.cgi?site=ctc2011&state=nc http://www.contactingthecongress.org/cgi-bin/newseek.cgi?sit... http://www.contactingthecongress.org/cgi-bin/newseek.cgi?site=ctc2011&state=ca http://www.contactingthecongress.org/cgi-bin/newseek.cgi?sit... http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/03/09/proposed-senate-bill-penalizing-resistance-to-decryption-requests-nears-completion-could-be-introduced-next-week http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/03/09/proposed-senate-bi... Express yourself with the honesty and clarity that the government's charm offensive is lacking." http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/03/14/take-a-stand-against-the-obama-fbi-anti-encryption-charm-offensive http://appleinsider.com/articles/16/03/14/take-a-stand-again...

adam12 11y ago
I feel like that White House petition is a honeypot.
- ccvannorman 11y ago
  This thread is a honeypot. Also buying any iPhone made after 2015.
  - headgasket 11y ago
    are you being sarcastic? otherwise can you elaborate?
callcallcall 11y ago
Found an easy way to call on iOS https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voices-advocacy-tool/id965692648?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voices-advocacy-tool/id96569...
mixblast 11y ago
And what about the rest of the world? Can we do anything other than just trusting the US citizens to get their government to do the right thing?
- x1798DE 11y ago
  You can donate to the EFF or support open source encryption technology like Signal and GPG.
- arebop 11y ago
  Make your own country less corrupt, more free, and better for the economically-worst-off, so that your own entrepreneurs may eventually overtake the authoritarian superpowers?
  - wyager 11y ago
    >and better for the economically-worst-off, Not that I disagree with this, but how is this supposed to help entrepreneurs? If anything, it will just increase the tax burden of running a business.
    - FroshKiller 11y ago
      Or lower the barrier to entry to the marketplace for economically disadvantaged people with their own ideas and talents....
    - arebop 11y ago
      decreases the risk of failure and makes it less important who your parents were.
    - tete 11y ago
      If you do stuff like building infrastructure, creating efficient health care systems (because you can do stuff for all the people lowering the price and having a bigger positive effect on overall health) you actually make it better for startups, cause they can use the infrastructure, need to pay lower wages (because health care and infrastructure are cheaper/taken care of). If you use tax money on education you also have a positive effect for both startups and poor people. You also even out the divide between new and and established companies, established companies having non innovative advantages, such as brand names, maybe their own "infrastructure". So you even get rid of companies that try to keep status quo and have innovation stall. The sad thing is that currently some governments/parties/politicians create inhuman, even counter productive productive competition between humans while at the same time have companies be cartels and monopolies and more importantly create counter productive anti-competition laws such as intellectual property, to a degree really awful patent systems, brand protection stuff, etc. It's kind of destructive in regards of innovation and progress.
chishaku 11y ago
A few more resources along the same lines: * Tracking Congressional bills, Congressional representatives and voting history: https://www.govtrack.us/ https://www.govtrack.us/ * General resource on local, state and federal elections: https://ballotpedia.org https://ballotpedia.org * Data on lobbying and political contributions: https://www.opensecrets.org/ https://www.opensecrets.org/ * Voting history, policy positions and public statement transcripts of politicians and political organizations: http://votesmart.org/ http://votesmart.org/
ch4s3 11y ago
"Strong encryption is a cornerstone of freedom of the press, privacy, health care, banking, and commerce to name a few only a few of our national interests. Any erosion to this bedrock of modern society harms us all. Once back doors exist they cannot be kept secret. To quote a common adage, "security by obscurity is not security". Similarly, outlawing strong crypto technology only keeps it out of the hands of law abiding American citizens and companies. Since encryption is based on mathematical concepts that once understood can be somewhat trivially implemented in code, it is impossible to put back in pandora's box. The US government cannot stop foreign nationals from writing crypto software or publishing math papers. Harming cryptography in the name of security would simply serve undermine our own economic and civil interests, while doing nothing to stop "terror.""
shard972 11y ago
Also signup for https://www.internetdefenseleague.org/ https://www.internetdefenseleague.org/

by jccc 11y ago

adam12 11y ago

I feel like that White House petition is a honeypot.

ccvannorman 11y ago
This thread is a honeypot. Also buying any iPhone made after 2015.
- headgasket 11y ago
  are you being sarcastic? otherwise can you elaborate?

callcallcall 11y ago

Found an easy way to call on iOS https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voices-advocacy-tool/id965692648?mt=8 https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/voices-advocacy-tool/id96569...

mixblast 11y ago

And what about the rest of the world? Can we do anything other than just trusting the US citizens to get their government to do the right thing?

x1798DE 11y ago
You can donate to the EFF or support open source encryption technology like Signal and GPG.
arebop 11y ago
Make your own country less corrupt, more free, and better for the economically-worst-off, so that your own entrepreneurs may eventually overtake the authoritarian superpowers?
- wyager 11y ago
  >and better for the economically-worst-off, Not that I disagree with this, but how is this supposed to help entrepreneurs? If anything, it will just increase the tax burden of running a business.
  - FroshKiller 11y ago
    Or lower the barrier to entry to the marketplace for economically disadvantaged people with their own ideas and talents....
  - arebop 11y ago
    decreases the risk of failure and makes it less important who your parents were.
  - tete 11y ago
    If you do stuff like building infrastructure, creating efficient health care systems (because you can do stuff for all the people lowering the price and having a bigger positive effect on overall health) you actually make it better for startups, cause they can use the infrastructure, need to pay lower wages (because health care and infrastructure are cheaper/taken care of). If you use tax money on education you also have a positive effect for both startups and poor people. You also even out the divide between new and and established companies, established companies having non innovative advantages, such as brand names, maybe their own "infrastructure". So you even get rid of companies that try to keep status quo and have innovation stall. The sad thing is that currently some governments/parties/politicians create inhuman, even counter productive productive competition between humans while at the same time have companies be cartels and monopolies and more importantly create counter productive anti-competition laws such as intellectual property, to a degree really awful patent systems, brand protection stuff, etc. It's kind of destructive in regards of innovation and progress.

chishaku 11y ago

A few more resources along the same lines: * Tracking Congressional bills, Congressional representatives and voting history: https://www.govtrack.us/ https://www.govtrack.us/ * General resource on local, state and federal elections: https://ballotpedia.org https://ballotpedia.org * Data on lobbying and political contributions: https://www.opensecrets.org/ https://www.opensecrets.org/ * Voting history, policy positions and public statement transcripts of politicians and political organizations: http://votesmart.org/ http://votesmart.org/

ch4s3 11y ago

"Strong encryption is a cornerstone of freedom of the press, privacy, health care, banking, and commerce to name a few only a few of our national interests. Any erosion to this bedrock of modern society harms us all. Once back doors exist they cannot be kept secret. To quote a common adage, "security by obscurity is not security". Similarly, outlawing strong crypto technology only keeps it out of the hands of law abiding American citizens and companies. Since encryption is based on mathematical concepts that once understood can be somewhat trivially implemented in code, it is impossible to put back in pandora's box. The US government cannot stop foreign nationals from writing crypto software or publishing math papers. Harming cryptography in the name of security would simply serve undermine our own economic and civil interests, while doing nothing to stop "terror.""

shard972 11y ago

Also signup for https://www.internetdefenseleague.org/ https://www.internetdefenseleague.org/