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No one but scared liberals want "gun control". Freedom-loving Americans want elected officials to enforce the existing laws, not create new ones out of fear. R

No one but scared liberals want "gun control". Freedom-loving Americans want elected officials to enforce the existing laws, not create new ones out of fear. Registration is the first step to disarmament. Look back no further than Janet Reno, thankfully no longer in her position, who famously said that the actual goal is disarmament of the population. A certain venomous Democrat presidential hopeful has also echoed this sentiment publicly, recently stating on the record that only police and military should own handguns. Why on Earth would anyone vote for someone who wants to take away freedoms enshrined in the Constitution?

Loque 11y ago
> Why on Earth would anyone vote for someone who wants to take away freedoms enshrined in the Constitution? Because it is adjusted as we develop and learn more about the world we live in, it has happened in the past, and I sincerely hope it continues to happen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution#Ratified_amendments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution#Rat...
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- th0waway 11y ago
  Ahh, the fallacy of not learning from history - as soon as a populace is disarmed they are helpless before their lord and master... I mean government. The battle for freedom began in Lexington and Concord when a group of British soldiers attempted to disarm a group of Colonists. You (and many people) are under the bad assumption that as we learn more our basic human nature changes, but it does not.
  - Loque 11y ago
    We live in different times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Lexington_and_Concord https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Lexington_and_Conco...
    - greenisland 11y ago
      But human nature does NOT change.
- hnal943 11y ago
  Then the politicians who wish to ban guns should do it through the front door and propose a constitutional amendment. They won't do that, because it won't pass because there is nowhere near the level of consensus in the country to get such a massive change to the American law done.
celticninja 11y ago
Surely that is all US politicians if you look at anything else in the constitution except guns.
Thriptic 11y ago
To some degree I agree. The problem with most vocal proponents of "reasonable" regulation in this space is that they are negotiating in bad faith. In many ways it reminds me of the current debate on encryption. Fundamentally these people don't want to seek a viable middle ground which protects freedoms while mitigating problems, they want to remove the rights or protections entirely. It therefore becomes almost impossible to take anything other than an absolutist stance because every negotiation involves the outcome of previous "reasonable negotiations" being used as the starting point for the people on defense. Their fundamental goal is to slowly chip away until there is nothing left.

Loque 11y ago

> Why on Earth would anyone vote for someone who wants to take away freedoms enshrined in the Constitution? Because it is adjusted as we develop and learn more about the world we live in, it has happened in the past, and I sincerely hope it continues to happen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution#Ratified_amendments https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Constitution#Rat...

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th0waway 11y ago
Ahh, the fallacy of not learning from history - as soon as a populace is disarmed they are helpless before their lord and master... I mean government. The battle for freedom began in Lexington and Concord when a group of British soldiers attempted to disarm a group of Colonists. You (and many people) are under the bad assumption that as we learn more our basic human nature changes, but it does not.
- Loque 11y ago
  We live in different times. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Lexington_and_Concord https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battles_of_Lexington_and_Conco...
  - greenisland 11y ago
    But human nature does NOT change.
hnal943 11y ago
Then the politicians who wish to ban guns should do it through the front door and propose a constitutional amendment. They won't do that, because it won't pass because there is nowhere near the level of consensus in the country to get such a massive change to the American law done.

celticninja 11y ago

Surely that is all US politicians if you look at anything else in the constitution except guns.

Thriptic 11y ago

To some degree I agree. The problem with most vocal proponents of "reasonable" regulation in this space is that they are negotiating in bad faith. In many ways it reminds me of the current debate on encryption. Fundamentally these people don't want to seek a viable middle ground which protects freedoms while mitigating problems, they want to remove the rights or protections entirely. It therefore becomes almost impossible to take anything other than an absolutist stance because every negotiation involves the outcome of previous "reasonable negotiations" being used as the starting point for the people on defense. Their fundamental goal is to slowly chip away until there is nothing left.