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While the problem space where C would be appropriate has been shrinking, this rant is nonsense. > With C you'd have to install the proper library, then choose

While the problem space where C would be appropriate has been shrinking, this rant is nonsense. > With C you'd have to install the proper library, then choose a build tool, then learn another language like make , then learn m4 macros ; then learn to do proper memory management What library? The libc that is on every OS? Build tools and Makefiles aren't exclusive to C; any non-trivial project is going to have tooling, no matter the language [1]. Also, if you don't understand memory management, then why do you think starting a new project in C would be appropriate...? > Try writing a JSON api in pure C backed by a NoSQL db That's rather under-specified (what kind of JSON API?), but there are very few cases where you would actually want to write such an API in C, maybe unless you're actually working on the DB bindings themselves, and assuming the DB is in C/C++. Even then, it's arguable whether JSON is the ideal serialization. Choose the right tool for the job. [1] I'd argue that Makefiles and M4 are still very useful on their own and it'd behoove developers of all kinds to learn them anyway... maybe we'd have less (poorly done) reinvention with idiosyncratic, flavor-of-the-day build systems.

spriggan3 11y ago
> The hype train The OP specifically talked about the "hype train". There is no hype train at all. The new languages like Go and co are the answer to problems that exist with using C as a language for writing servers. > That's rather under-specified (what kind of JSON API?), but there are very few cases where you would actually want to write such an API in C Again the OP said all these new language were just hip. I answered than no, they are not, because of the reason you just exposed. We agree, you just didn't understand the point of my message and what I was responding to. Dismissing Go and co as "hype" and then talking about the awesomeness of C is certainly non sense.
- jallmann 11y ago
  The issue is that your criticisms of C range from superficial, to incorrect, to straw men. > Dismissing Go and co as "hype" I didn't read OP as dismissing Go &c, just an acknowledgement that they are getting a lot of attention, along with their tooling. OP didn't say what he was using C/C++ for either, so it's weak to make a comparison where none was implied eg, JSON API. That entire post was a very roundabout way to quibble about the use of the word "hype" by going on an otherwise unprovoked diatribe against C.
  - spriggan3 11y ago
    > I didn't read OP as dismissing Go &c, just an acknowledgement that they are getting a lot of attention, along with their tooling. Yet that exactly what he did.

spriggan3 11y ago

> The hype train The OP specifically talked about the "hype train". There is no hype train at all. The new languages like Go and co are the answer to problems that exist with using C as a language for writing servers. > That's rather under-specified (what kind of JSON API?), but there are very few cases where you would actually want to write such an API in C Again the OP said all these new language were just hip. I answered than no, they are not, because of the reason you just exposed. We agree, you just didn't understand the point of my message and what I was responding to. Dismissing Go and co as "hype" and then talking about the awesomeness of C is certainly non sense.

jallmann 11y ago
The issue is that your criticisms of C range from superficial, to incorrect, to straw men. > Dismissing Go and co as "hype" I didn't read OP as dismissing Go &c, just an acknowledgement that they are getting a lot of attention, along with their tooling. OP didn't say what he was using C/C++ for either, so it's weak to make a comparison where none was implied eg, JSON API. That entire post was a very roundabout way to quibble about the use of the word "hype" by going on an otherwise unprovoked diatribe against C.
- spriggan3 11y ago
  > I didn't read OP as dismissing Go &c, just an acknowledgement that they are getting a lot of attention, along with their tooling. Yet that exactly what he did.