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This is madness. I've actually had the "opposite" problem. Ever since Win10 came out, my Win7 machine doesn't bother announcing when updates are available. I

• edwhitesell 11y ago
  > I've actually had the "opposite" problem. Ever since Win10 came out, my Win7 machine doesn't bother announcing when updates are available. I have to remember to install them myself ever "patch Tuesday". I also had this issue until I sat down and figured out how to make Windows Update stop forcing Windows 10 on me. Basically, you need to remove KB3035583, hide it from updates AND uncheck the box to "give me recommended updates the same way I receive important updates". Otherwise, it would keep coming back. This latest patch Tuesday also introduced another "update" to trigger Win10 installation, it's called: upgrade to Windows 10 Pro, version 1511, 10586 Hiding that in Windows Update got me back to installing the normal updates. Microsoft is making this whole process way too painful for those of us who know we don't want to update.
  • deciplex 11y ago
    That will work until they make KB3035583 "Important" again. Basically, the way they're going, it's only a matter of time before Win 7 & 8 basically don't work anymore.
    • kefka 11y ago
      Eh. I just turn updates off. It solves the issue sufficiently.
      • deciplex 11y ago
        Yes. Pretty much this. You do need some updates though, and Microsoft hardly does a good job of describing what each update does from WU itself, so hope you like looking up each individual update on the MS website. Eventually they'll just start obfuscating what an update does on the website as well, if not lying outright.
        • wmccullough 11y ago
          If not lying outright? There's no grand conspiracy here. Put the tinfoil hat away...
          • CamperBob2 11y ago
            The time to make jokes about tinfoil hats is long past. It's no longer debatable that we're seeing either incompetence or malice on Microsoft's part. I don't know which, and don't really care. Either way, there's a case to be made for disabling updates entirely.
          • deciplex 11y ago
            Well, they already say within WU itself that KB3035583 is to resolve "important issues in Windows" which is a lie. But lying about what the update does on their page for the update at microsoft.com is somehow a stretch?
          • kefka 11y ago
            I really don't care why they chose to do this hijack-update. When I'm lied to about updating, and it takes bloody forever normally, it pisses me off. When you start trying to hijack my machine for your purposes "for Win10", you can collectively fuck off. I'll set on my Windows Machine (yes singular, all others are Linux variants) for No-update Windows 7. And I'll also switch everyone I know to no-update as well.
    • edwhitesell 11y ago
      That's why you "hide" it too. Then it won't come back. I have other "important" updates for drivers that have not returned.
      • deciplex 11y ago
        You can only hide it for as long as they don't refresh that update. Once they make a change to KB3035583 it won't be hidden anymore and, if they make it important at the same time, guess what's going to happen? I've "hidden" KB3035583 half a dozen times in the last year (even posting here about how ridiculous this all was and being promptly flamed to ashes). It always comes back eventually.
        • edwhitesell 11y ago
          Well, I can only say after I have hidden it some months ago, it has never came back (on multiple systems). There could be other factors at play. I'm pretty sure even an update changed from recommended to important will stay hidden too. Though, I wouldn't be surprised to learn that can be overridden. At least Windows Update makes it obvious when it (Windows 10 installer) returns in some form. EDIT: clarified last line.