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Why is this a big deal? Why should MSFT not do this? Here are a couple of reasons why... Perhaps the machine hardware is not Win10 compliant Perhaps a machine

Why is this a big deal? Why should MSFT not do this? Here are a couple of reasons why... Perhaps the machine hardware is not Win10 compliant Perhaps a machine hosts software that requires significant regression testing before permitting an upgrade to Win10 Perhaps the machine's software is not Win10 compatible and needs to be rewritten before a Win10 upgrade Perhaps the machine in question has specific greenzone periods and should not be upgraded without an agreed outage schedule between IT provider and user base. (Think banking, power generation, healthcare, airline sectors, etc.) Perhaps your Mom owns the computer and you want to personally manage the upgrade when you visit at Christmas instead of having to spend 6 hours on the phone with her. MSFT has no idea whether or not its SAFE to automatically roll out an update for their OS users. They make no effort to check hardware compliance status with all hardware manufacturers. They make no effort to check the compliance status of 3rd party software. They make no effort to ensure that critical infrastructure systems (power, health, banking) individual greenzones are followed to prevent unplanned outages.

sveiss 11y ago
The upgrade notification system does make the effort to check against known-bad hardware and software, including 3rd party software, and will warn and/or block the upgrade if it's known to be incompatible. As for managed machines, most won't be eligible for the upgrade to begin with (domain joined, Windows 7 Enterprise), and the upgrade can be blocked entirely via Group Policy or WSUS. Any sensibly managed machine in the environments you mentioned won't be automatically upgraded. Yes, the compatibility checks aren't perfect, and yes, making sure the update isn't rolled out to managed machines requires that they actually be managed, just like any other update Microsoft publish. But it's unfair to say they make 'no effort' to support these scenarios.
- chris_wot 11y ago
  It is fair to say that as they cannot know that upgrading to a new major release of their operating system will never lead to non-functioning systems they should never have attempted a forced major upgrade of Windows. If they know that there are cases where their compatibility checker won't detect setups that have problems then they shouldn't iPad automatically. Full stop.
- rabboRubble 11y ago
  My small sample of machines, manufacturer says machine not compatible, MSFT still prompted me to install win10. If they are actually checking HW compatibility they are doing a shitty job. Which means they shouldn't be rolling anything out in this fashion. On Reddit I read about medical devices getting automatically upgraded when needed for a procedure. Maybe the hospital network was badly managed but that does not excuse MSFT's auto rollout. My point still stands that MSFT should not be automatically upgrading the OS without significant user oversight, agreement.

sveiss 11y ago

The upgrade notification system does make the effort to check against known-bad hardware and software, including 3rd party software, and will warn and/or block the upgrade if it's known to be incompatible. As for managed machines, most won't be eligible for the upgrade to begin with (domain joined, Windows 7 Enterprise), and the upgrade can be blocked entirely via Group Policy or WSUS. Any sensibly managed machine in the environments you mentioned won't be automatically upgraded. Yes, the compatibility checks aren't perfect, and yes, making sure the update isn't rolled out to managed machines requires that they actually be managed, just like any other update Microsoft publish. But it's unfair to say they make 'no effort' to support these scenarios.

chris_wot 11y ago
It is fair to say that as they cannot know that upgrading to a new major release of their operating system will never lead to non-functioning systems they should never have attempted a forced major upgrade of Windows. If they know that there are cases where their compatibility checker won't detect setups that have problems then they shouldn't iPad automatically. Full stop.
rabboRubble 11y ago
My small sample of machines, manufacturer says machine not compatible, MSFT still prompted me to install win10. If they are actually checking HW compatibility they are doing a shitty job. Which means they shouldn't be rolling anything out in this fashion. On Reddit I read about medical devices getting automatically upgraded when needed for a procedure. Maybe the hospital network was badly managed but that does not excuse MSFT's auto rollout. My point still stands that MSFT should not be automatically upgrading the OS without significant user oversight, agreement.