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Being a short man is particularly frustrating, because unlike being fat, there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Call a man short, or say you only dat

Being a short man is particularly frustrating, because unlike being fat, there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. Call a man short, or say you only date tall men, nobody bats an eye. Call a woman fat, or say you'll never date a fat woman, everyone goes nuts.

Mz 11y ago
On the one hand, I agree with you. On the other hand, women get to look forward to being kicked to the curb for being too old. Past a certain age, even men your age will act like "You are too old to be fuckable" and no one bats an eyelash at that either. Even otherwise "enlightened" men routinely say they will happily date a woman who is 10 years younger, but have zero interest in a woman more than a year or two older.
- guard-of-terra 11y ago
  "men routinely say they will happily date a woman who is 10 years younger" This also have consequence of reducing chances for younger men who would like to compete for these younger women too. Those are same years when adult personality forms, hence we're seeing some really broken men personalities. That then boomerangs to women in form of abusive, ignorant or insecure men.
- maxxxxx 11y ago
  On the other hand if you don't have plenty of money as a man of certain age you are pretty much toast too. The good thing is that there are plenty of men whom would date a woman their age and plenty of women that would date a guy who isn't rich. They are just not as vocal and live their lives quietly.
  - Mz 11y ago
    I am aware that if you are male and truly destitute, the odds of getting female companionship are pretty poor. But, in the aggregate, men tend to have more money than women. So, I don't think you need to be rich per se to stay in the game. You just need to be better off than the women you are interested in. That seems like a somewhat low bar to me.
- yarou 11y ago
  I guess I'm an anomaly and counterexample to your analysis. I tend to prefer the company of older women, up to 10 years older than myself. I have this preference as I've found women that are younger than me often don't know what they want. I find it easier to have an...arrangement with older women.
- sixQuarks 11y ago
  That's not an apples to apples comparison. Old age happens to ALL women - and ALL women are young at some point, thus it doesn't affect any one individual adversely. Short stature only affects SOME men, and is a huge disadvantage throughout life to the individual.
  - Mz 11y ago
    There are no apples to apples comparisons here. But, I use female age as a comparison to male height -- instead of female weight -- because they are both things beyond our control. If a woman really, really wants to lose the weight, she potentially can. But you can't make yourself younger or taller.
    - sixQuarks 11y ago
      No, you didn't understand. It doesn't matter if a woman can't control her age, this is not the same comparison. Old age is not controllable, BUT it affects EVERY SINGLE WOMAN, it is a fair plane when it comes to their peers. Short stature is not controllable, BUT it ONLY affects certain men. Those men are treated unfairly compared to their peers. The only true comparison would be something like "women who are disfigured", or "women who are super-hairy". It has to affect only a portion of the set.
      - Nadya 11y ago
        >Old age is not controllable, BUT it affects EVERY SINGLE WOMAN, it is a fair plane when it comes to their peers. People age differently. I've met a 73 year old woman who, I swore, did not look a day over 40. I only found out her age because I used to work at a theme park where one of the games I had to run was a weight/age guessing game. I guessed 38 and her entire family was ecstatic and bursting out in laughter. Meanwhile I nearly got hit by a woman's boyfriend for guessing she was 35. She was 24. Keep in mind my job was obviously to have fun and try to avoid insulting the customer. I guessed 35 because she looked over 40. It will, eventually, affect every single woman. But some have a bit more time than others.
Someone 11y ago
Nothing? It is not for the faint of heart, and I wouldn't recommend it (but I'm not in the target audience, so who am I to make that call?) but there is http://www.shortsupport.org/Health/Leg-Lengthening/procedure.html http://www.shortsupport.org/Health/Leg-Lengthening/procedure.... Difference apparently can be up to four inches. And of course, if you start early, there is the Messi approach of using growth hormones.
- sixQuarks 11y ago
  I knew somebody would mention this. OK, there IS something that can be done, but I believe it only works if you do it while you're young.
mobilefriendly 11y ago
Yeah I was annoyed the article conflated height and weight. Height cannot be controlled, but obesity is the result of poor lifestyle choices (except for rare medical situations). I think most people assume being overweight correlates with other bad habits like poor self-control and general personal sloppiness. My own weight has fluctuated over the years between normal and obese and I'm definitely more on the ball, much more confident, and higher energy when I'm fit.
- gohrt 11y ago
  Hi, generally sloppy person with poor self-control, checking in. Thin as a rail. Metabolism is a scientific fact. Fat people who diet and exercise become big built people. Skinny people who eat and don't work out don't become fat in a way that can be seen through street/business clothing.
  - lololomg 11y ago
    > Metabolism is a scientific fact. The difference between 'high' and 'low' metabolism is very small. You just eat less which is why you are thin as a rail. People are very bad at self-reporting caloric intake, there are several studies on this.
    - sheepmullet 11y ago
      Yeah, it's about 300 calories. Or a single bottle of Coke.

Mz 11y ago

On the one hand, I agree with you. On the other hand, women get to look forward to being kicked to the curb for being too old. Past a certain age, even men your age will act like "You are too old to be fuckable" and no one bats an eyelash at that either. Even otherwise "enlightened" men routinely say they will happily date a woman who is 10 years younger, but have zero interest in a woman more than a year or two older.

guard-of-terra 11y ago
"men routinely say they will happily date a woman who is 10 years younger" This also have consequence of reducing chances for younger men who would like to compete for these younger women too. Those are same years when adult personality forms, hence we're seeing some really broken men personalities. That then boomerangs to women in form of abusive, ignorant or insecure men.
maxxxxx 11y ago
On the other hand if you don't have plenty of money as a man of certain age you are pretty much toast too. The good thing is that there are plenty of men whom would date a woman their age and plenty of women that would date a guy who isn't rich. They are just not as vocal and live their lives quietly.
- Mz 11y ago
  I am aware that if you are male and truly destitute, the odds of getting female companionship are pretty poor. But, in the aggregate, men tend to have more money than women. So, I don't think you need to be rich per se to stay in the game. You just need to be better off than the women you are interested in. That seems like a somewhat low bar to me.
yarou 11y ago
I guess I'm an anomaly and counterexample to your analysis. I tend to prefer the company of older women, up to 10 years older than myself. I have this preference as I've found women that are younger than me often don't know what they want. I find it easier to have an...arrangement with older women.
sixQuarks 11y ago
That's not an apples to apples comparison. Old age happens to ALL women - and ALL women are young at some point, thus it doesn't affect any one individual adversely. Short stature only affects SOME men, and is a huge disadvantage throughout life to the individual.
- Mz 11y ago
  There are no apples to apples comparisons here. But, I use female age as a comparison to male height -- instead of female weight -- because they are both things beyond our control. If a woman really, really wants to lose the weight, she potentially can. But you can't make yourself younger or taller.
  - sixQuarks 11y ago
    No, you didn't understand. It doesn't matter if a woman can't control her age, this is not the same comparison. Old age is not controllable, BUT it affects EVERY SINGLE WOMAN, it is a fair plane when it comes to their peers. Short stature is not controllable, BUT it ONLY affects certain men. Those men are treated unfairly compared to their peers. The only true comparison would be something like "women who are disfigured", or "women who are super-hairy". It has to affect only a portion of the set.
    - Nadya 11y ago
      >Old age is not controllable, BUT it affects EVERY SINGLE WOMAN, it is a fair plane when it comes to their peers. People age differently. I've met a 73 year old woman who, I swore, did not look a day over 40. I only found out her age because I used to work at a theme park where one of the games I had to run was a weight/age guessing game. I guessed 38 and her entire family was ecstatic and bursting out in laughter. Meanwhile I nearly got hit by a woman's boyfriend for guessing she was 35. She was 24. Keep in mind my job was obviously to have fun and try to avoid insulting the customer. I guessed 35 because she looked over 40. It will, eventually, affect every single woman. But some have a bit more time than others.

Someone 11y ago

Nothing? It is not for the faint of heart, and I wouldn't recommend it (but I'm not in the target audience, so who am I to make that call?) but there is http://www.shortsupport.org/Health/Leg-Lengthening/procedure.html http://www.shortsupport.org/Health/Leg-Lengthening/procedure.... Difference apparently can be up to four inches. And of course, if you start early, there is the Messi approach of using growth hormones.

sixQuarks 11y ago
I knew somebody would mention this. OK, there IS something that can be done, but I believe it only works if you do it while you're young.

mobilefriendly 11y ago

Yeah I was annoyed the article conflated height and weight. Height cannot be controlled, but obesity is the result of poor lifestyle choices (except for rare medical situations). I think most people assume being overweight correlates with other bad habits like poor self-control and general personal sloppiness. My own weight has fluctuated over the years between normal and obese and I'm definitely more on the ball, much more confident, and higher energy when I'm fit.

gohrt 11y ago
Hi, generally sloppy person with poor self-control, checking in. Thin as a rail. Metabolism is a scientific fact. Fat people who diet and exercise become big built people. Skinny people who eat and don't work out don't become fat in a way that can be seen through street/business clothing.
- lololomg 11y ago
  > Metabolism is a scientific fact. The difference between 'high' and 'low' metabolism is very small. You just eat less which is why you are thin as a rail. People are very bad at self-reporting caloric intake, there are several studies on this.
  - sheepmullet 11y ago
    Yeah, it's about 300 calories. Or a single bottle of Coke.