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Yeah, no, they didn't. Yes, in three states, the AFD has gotten a lot of votes, but the majority is still voting for the old" parties. Especially in Baden-Würt

by jagermo 11y ago

Yeah, no, they didn't. Yes, in three states, the AFD has gotten a lot of votes, but the majority is still voting for the old" parties. Especially in Baden-Würtemberg, where the green party has the majority vote, for the first time ever. And, funnily enough, the state where the right-wing party AFD scored the best is the state with one of the lowest quota for taking in asylum seekers, see here: http://www.bamf.de/DE/Migration/AsylFluechtlinge/Asylverfahren/Verteilung/verteilung-node.html http://www.bamf.de/DE/Migration/AsylFluechtlinge/Asylverfahr... Yes, it is a signal to established parties. No, its not Nazi-Supporters marching through the streets.

ZoeZoeBee 11y ago
The party came second in two out of the three states having suffered strong losses in Rhineland Palatinate (where the center-left Social Democratic Party won) and Baden-Wurttemberg (where the Green party won) and only retaining its lead in Saxony-Anhalt. Why is it that whenever people have come to the conclusion that introducing Millions of people incompatible with a Modern Society, to shore up Demographics due to an aging population, who do not mesh well with their own culture are immediately labeled Nazis? Sweden has been running this experiment (Importing Migrants from the Middle East and North Africa to deal with their low birthrate) for 20 years now and are feeling the strains without the presumptive gains they hoped to achieve.
- jagermo 11y ago
  Yes, let's ignore the fundamental law and the right to asylum - the most logical solution - and cite the most far fetched reasons. You are entiteld to apply for asylum. And until a judge (not some guy on the internet) says no, you are allowed to stay in the country. In the first step, your origin does not matter, just look at case of Andre Sheperd (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/André_Shepherd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/André_Shepherd). Sorry to burst your bubble, but the german law allows people to seek asylum. That people who are denied are not getting deported, that is another matter. However even here are a lot of restraints. Please do not turn a complicated matter in a polemic "do this one thing to solve all your problems" snakeoil thing. And, to be fair, a lot of the problems with people failing to integrate into society are because Germany ignored the immigrants in the 60s and 70s and hoped that they will get away. Turns out that not "wasting" money on education bites you in the long run.
  - ZoeZoeBee 11y ago
    Yes lets pretend that all of the migrants are refugees escaping from persecution and not simply economic migrants... Let's ignore the fact the Fundamental Law you speak of was written in 1993, and the fact that you speak of today's migrants lack of assimilation on German education from the 60's and 70's, praytell which side of Germany during that period are you even talking about? Of course the Migrants during the time period you speak of are nothing like the Migrants of today...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Germany Not certain which thing you are referring to in terms of "snake oil" but the active recruiting of migrants from the Middle East and North Africa by the low birthrate nations of the EU is a real practice.

by jagermo 11y ago

ZoeZoeBee 11y ago

The party came second in two out of the three states having suffered strong losses in Rhineland Palatinate (where the center-left Social Democratic Party won) and Baden-Wurttemberg (where the Green party won) and only retaining its lead in Saxony-Anhalt. Why is it that whenever people have come to the conclusion that introducing Millions of people incompatible with a Modern Society, to shore up Demographics due to an aging population, who do not mesh well with their own culture are immediately labeled Nazis? Sweden has been running this experiment (Importing Migrants from the Middle East and North Africa to deal with their low birthrate) for 20 years now and are feeling the strains without the presumptive gains they hoped to achieve.

jagermo 11y ago
Yes, let's ignore the fundamental law and the right to asylum - the most logical solution - and cite the most far fetched reasons. You are entiteld to apply for asylum. And until a judge (not some guy on the internet) says no, you are allowed to stay in the country. In the first step, your origin does not matter, just look at case of Andre Sheperd (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/André_Shepherd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/André_Shepherd). Sorry to burst your bubble, but the german law allows people to seek asylum. That people who are denied are not getting deported, that is another matter. However even here are a lot of restraints. Please do not turn a complicated matter in a polemic "do this one thing to solve all your problems" snakeoil thing. And, to be fair, a lot of the problems with people failing to integrate into society are because Germany ignored the immigrants in the 60s and 70s and hoped that they will get away. Turns out that not "wasting" money on education bites you in the long run.
- ZoeZoeBee 11y ago
  Yes lets pretend that all of the migrants are refugees escaping from persecution and not simply economic migrants... Let's ignore the fact the Fundamental Law you speak of was written in 1993, and the fact that you speak of today's migrants lack of assimilation on German education from the 60's and 70's, praytell which side of Germany during that period are you even talking about? Of course the Migrants during the time period you speak of are nothing like the Migrants of today...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Germany Not certain which thing you are referring to in terms of "snake oil" but the active recruiting of migrants from the Middle East and North Africa by the low birthrate nations of the EU is a real practice.