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As someone who has dealt with ADHD both with and without medication, at least from my experience this line of reasoning leads to much pain. I cannot speak for
by rtpg 11y ago
As someone who has dealt with ADHD both with and without medication, at least from my experience this line of reasoning leads to much pain.
I cannot speak for those with depression, but ADHD has easily tripled the amount of stress I have in my life, if not more. It causes impulsive behaviour that can wreck relationships(both personal and professional), and makes it extremely hard to concentrate on many things that aren't totally gamified from the outset.
There's a trope about how ADHD ends up being a gift because of creative thoughts coming to you, and that the medication will dull your senses... but I don't buy it too much. There have been studies that have measured no noticable difference in "creative capabilities"(hard to measure, granted) when being medicated and non-medicated.
Before being put on medication, I had never finished a single piece of homework in my life. Afterwards I was able to finish the homework assignments before class was even over. I would study autonomously, and was able to reach my full potential because I was able to manage my thoughts for the first time in my life.
There is no moral high-ground to not medicating oneself, just like there is no moral high-ground to using crutches when you have a broken leg. Asking me not to medicate is the same as asking me to go through meaningless suffering in almost every social interaction. Countless studies have shown that medication is much much more effective than any form of behavioural therapy (and that BT has an extremely high failure/"relapse" rate).
I don't think it's right to mock people looking for non-medical treatment, because various reasons mean you cannot have access to alternatives.
But medication has been proven to be very effective, and BT has proven to be a very difficult path... if you are a parent of a child suffering from ADHD it is your duty to at least explore the medication option in my opinion.
There is likely to be no higher reason for ADHD and depression to exist. We have looked at "normal people's" brains, and see that for depression/ADHD some things work differently. And that these people tend to have lower-quality lives because of a lack of something... It's hard to argue that there's a reason for it all except in some religious context. It's not like there's a higher reason for brain tumors either.
As an aside, despite the fact that I currently love where I live (Japan), I always consider moving back to the US if only to get access to medication that is illegal here. My life is a lot shittier (still great overall though) because of some drug laws. I have spent a lot of time working on different non-medical coping techniques that have helped out a lot, but nothing matched the chemicals.
- dilemma 11y agoIs your medication amphetamine-based?
- rtpg 11y agoYeah, which is why it's banned here. I've tried looking into alternatives but because ADHD isn't recognized in adults here it can be difficult to convince a physician
- tomhoward 11y agoHey there, I'm sorry to give the impression that I think you and those like you should suffer without treatment. I really don't. And I don't believe ADHD is a myth or anything like that. Quite the opposite. I just believe we can do better that what the medical profession currently offers. I mean, don't you think it would be a shame if we couldn't? Don't you think it would be great if we could come to fully understand mental illness at a fundamental level, then develop treatments that gave you even better health than what you've already experienced, without the need for stimulant drugs? There is likely to be no higher reason for ADHD and depression to exist. Not wanting to labor the point on a topic that's clearly sensitive to you, but in short: evolutionary theory says there must be a reason why these traits are so widespread. I'll leave it there for now.
- tomhoward 11y agoI should add, in reference to this comment: Countless studies have shown that medication is much much more effective than any form of behavioural therapy (and that BT has an extremely high failure/"relapse" rate). Yes I can accept that. Behavioural therapies tend to be formalised ways of telling patients to "just try harder". They fail because the real issue is below the conscious mind (where "trying harder" works), in the subconscious mind and in the physiology (organ function, gene expression). My personal experience is that there is a highly effective approach to treatment that works both on a physiological (all the way down to gene expression) level and a subconscious emotional level. It may not be widely known or adopted yet, but it is attracting growing interest among ordinary people looking for better answers, if not mainstream science researchers, yet (due, I think, to the perverse economic incentives that prevail in that field, and the professional disincentives to pursue unconventional theories). But from what I can see, it's just a matter of time.