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I think any simulation of a reasonably complex environment is an opportunity for AI research, but I am hoping that TrueCraft (https://github.com/SirCmpwn/TrueCr

by clishem 11y ago

I think any simulation of a reasonably complex environment is an opportunity for AI research, but I am hoping that TrueCraft (https://github.com/SirCmpwn/TrueCraft https://github.com/SirCmpwn/TrueCraft) will do well so that researchers do not depend on proprietary Minecraft.

Tepix 11y ago
A version is minecraft that is forever stuck at 1.7.3 is not very appealing. If you want a game like Minecraft that's open source, check out Minetest http://www.minetest.net/ http://www.minetest.net/
- deepnet 11y ago
  Version 1.7.3 has everything required for the classroom and a clean room implementation is https://github.com/SirCmpwn/TrueCraft https://github.com/SirCmpwn/TrueCraft
  - asiekierka 11y ago
    It doesn't. Many classrooms rely on ComputerCraftEdu, for instance. While OpenComputers exists, it is not optimized for education, but rather for gameplay.
- AnthonBerg 11y ago
  The stuff added after 1.7.3 isn't particularly interesting to everyone so opinions will vary :)
  - Ntrails 11y ago
    I dunno, explored the new end fortresses at the weekend and then proceeded to spend about 2 hours jumping off very high things and gliding around with the new wings. (it was frickin sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet) Next project is to set up some arkham style gliding challenges, although in this case missing the target by even a small amount is like to result in death...
    - DanBC 11y ago
      > Next project is to set up some arkham style gliding challenges, although in this case missing the target by even a small amount is like to result in death... Pilot wings in Minecraft? Sounds awesome. I enjoyed some of the dropper maps, and that game where you jump off a high point into a pool and place a block each time, making the target smaller and smaller each time.
  - quarterto 11y ago
    Bear in mind this is Beta 1.7.3, which came out in July 2011. A lot has been added in the last 5 years.
    - marpstar 11y ago
      Can anyone elaborate on some of the things that are missing since then? I've got a 5-year-old who loves Minecraft and we've talked about modding but it just doesn't seem very approachable for a child that young. TrueCraft running on .NET would be considerably easier for me to introduce him to...
      - asiekierka 11y ago
        The "Adventure Update" and future updates in the same vein: hunger, enchanting, RPG-esque elements, etc. Also, some of the major redstone additions from the later versions, which are the ones I'd miss most.
- asiekierka 11y ago
  I played with Minetest for a while. It feels like it suffers from a lack of identity beyond "it's Minecraft, but free and hackable!". This is not enough to build a unified playerbase, I'm afraid. Its API is much simpler, though, if limited (no client-side scripting, limited model options).
  - 91bananas 11y ago
    Here is a Minecraft my buddy pieced together with client side scripting https://github.com/teachthenet/pycraft/ https://github.com/teachthenet/pycraft/
    - asiekierka 11y ago
      Bukkit? This does not sound very client side. Even if it runs on LAN, you're still only touching the integrated server. Client-side scripting in Minecraft-esque modding would probably mean things like being able to create proper, interactive GUIs, HUDs, dynamic rendering, etc.
- Sir_Cmpwn 11y ago
  TrueCraft author here. I expect that at some point it will be forked and someone will add the features of newer versions.
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asiekierka 11y ago
Sadly, TrueCraft, due to its nature, has to lock out one of the most potentially interested groups - Minecraft modders, both former and current. This saddens me a bit, as I myself am a strong fan of the beta 1.7.3 design ideals.

by clishem 11y ago

Tepix 11y ago

A version is minecraft that is forever stuck at 1.7.3 is not very appealing. If you want a game like Minecraft that's open source, check out Minetest http://www.minetest.net/ http://www.minetest.net/

deepnet 11y ago
Version 1.7.3 has everything required for the classroom and a clean room implementation is https://github.com/SirCmpwn/TrueCraft https://github.com/SirCmpwn/TrueCraft
- asiekierka 11y ago
  It doesn't. Many classrooms rely on ComputerCraftEdu, for instance. While OpenComputers exists, it is not optimized for education, but rather for gameplay.
AnthonBerg 11y ago
The stuff added after 1.7.3 isn't particularly interesting to everyone so opinions will vary :)
- Ntrails 11y ago
  I dunno, explored the new end fortresses at the weekend and then proceeded to spend about 2 hours jumping off very high things and gliding around with the new wings. (it was frickin sweeeeeeeeeeeeeet) Next project is to set up some arkham style gliding challenges, although in this case missing the target by even a small amount is like to result in death...
  - DanBC 11y ago
    > Next project is to set up some arkham style gliding challenges, although in this case missing the target by even a small amount is like to result in death... Pilot wings in Minecraft? Sounds awesome. I enjoyed some of the dropper maps, and that game where you jump off a high point into a pool and place a block each time, making the target smaller and smaller each time.
- quarterto 11y ago
  Bear in mind this is Beta 1.7.3, which came out in July 2011. A lot has been added in the last 5 years.
  - marpstar 11y ago
    Can anyone elaborate on some of the things that are missing since then? I've got a 5-year-old who loves Minecraft and we've talked about modding but it just doesn't seem very approachable for a child that young. TrueCraft running on .NET would be considerably easier for me to introduce him to...
    - asiekierka 11y ago
      The "Adventure Update" and future updates in the same vein: hunger, enchanting, RPG-esque elements, etc. Also, some of the major redstone additions from the later versions, which are the ones I'd miss most.
asiekierka 11y ago
I played with Minetest for a while. It feels like it suffers from a lack of identity beyond "it's Minecraft, but free and hackable!". This is not enough to build a unified playerbase, I'm afraid. Its API is much simpler, though, if limited (no client-side scripting, limited model options).
- 91bananas 11y ago
  Here is a Minecraft my buddy pieced together with client side scripting https://github.com/teachthenet/pycraft/ https://github.com/teachthenet/pycraft/
  - asiekierka 11y ago
    Bukkit? This does not sound very client side. Even if it runs on LAN, you're still only touching the integrated server. Client-side scripting in Minecraft-esque modding would probably mean things like being able to create proper, interactive GUIs, HUDs, dynamic rendering, etc.
Sir_Cmpwn 11y ago
TrueCraft author here. I expect that at some point it will be forked and someone will add the features of newer versions.

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asiekierka 11y ago

Sadly, TrueCraft, due to its nature, has to lock out one of the most potentially interested groups - Minecraft modders, both former and current. This saddens me a bit, as I myself am a strong fan of the beta 1.7.3 design ideals.