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Most of the time you can't. You can't buy something that's explicitly and on purpose not available for purchase in your country. That is the whole point. Even i
by nommm-nommm 11y ago
Most of the time you can't. You can't buy something that's explicitly and on purpose not available for purchase in your country. That is the whole point. Even if you were to find someone willing to import American DVDs to Estonia, the movie studios have region code lockout codes on DVD players to prevent that!
- thaumasiotes 11y ago> Even if you were to find someone willing to import American DVDs to Estonia, the movie studios have region code lockout codes on DVD players to prevent that! So use a computer to play your DVDs. Region lockout works on the honor system.
- DanBC 11y agoThis sub thread is about legal ways to watch movies. People seem to be missing the fact that importing DVDs is not necessarily legal; and turning your DVD player to region free is arguably not legal (under the various "interfering with rights protections mechanisms" laws. To you and me "buying the DVD from some other region" is legit, while "pirate the movie" is less legit, but to the rights-holders there's not much difference. See, for example, this submission which is talking about rights holders asking Netflix to stop people buying content from a different country.
- mirimir 11y agoWell then, if there are no legal ways to watch a movie, "pirating" is the only option, right? What possibilities remain? Should people take vacations to watch movies?
- maccard 11y agoThe "right" option is the same is at always has been - don't watch the movie. (Not saying I agree or disagree, just that it is an option)
- mirimir 11y agoThat's not going to be a very popular option.
- DanBC 11y agoMy opinion is that people should make their own choices. If it were me I'd try to buy the DVDs, but I'd also pirate the DVDs I had bought (for a backup) and I'd consider pirating the DVDs that are not available to purchase. But the industry has different ideas, and they are well funded and influential. We see the results of that influence in international copyright agreements and laws like DCMA. See for example the Japanese games that have "NO RE-SALE" printed on the back of the box. Japanese publishers pushed pretty hard to make second-hand sales of games illegal. (I don't think that succeeded). It is (or was?) illegal to rent games in Japan. In the face of this kind of vigorous assertion of rights of IP holders it's can be difficult to stick rigidly to the law.
- mirimir 11y agoI just don't get it. If some film is unavailable in some region, piracy in that region has no conceivable impact on sales. And so how can there be any damages? Do you argue that piracy notwithstanding, people would be migrating to places with better licensing deals?
- DanBC 11y agoIn this region: Movies are not available legally, and so people pirate them. When those people come to HN to say why they pirate movies other people say "just buy the DVD", or "just go without". "Just buy the DVD" doesn't work for the reasons given; just go without is dumb for the reasons you give. I don't think I'm arguing for the position you think I'm arguing for.
- mirimir 11y agoWhat are you arguing for?
- thaumasiotes 11y ago> If some film is unavailable in some region, piracy in that region has no conceivable impact on sales. This is definitely not true. Piracy in that region builds up a support infrastructure for piracy that can be used in other regions. It builds social support for piracy, and can spread, as a cultural practice, when people from the afflicted region converse with people from other regions. All of those things can impact sales outside the region.