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The "ethical motivations" section is out of place here. Its moaning about "money driven companies" (as though money were a bad thing), or "monopoly" (which doe
by fche 11y ago
The "ethical motivations" section is out of place here. Its moaning about "money driven companies" (as though money were a bad thing), or "monopoly" (which does not exist in AI), just reflects badly upon the project.
- riscy 11y agoThe monopoly _does_ exist in AI: machine learning is entirely data driven, and companies like Facebook and Twitter quite literally have investors throwing money at them because they have such valuable data for that purpose. Google is no different.
- fche 11y ago"Monopoly" does not mean "two companies have lots of knowhow that competitors might like".
- riscy 11y agoMonopoly does mean "when a specific person or enterprise is the only supplier of a particular commodity [...] which relates to a single entity's control of a market" (Wikipedia) Data is the commodity. There is nowhere else you can get good raw data about, say, what people were publicly discussing last week, except through Twitter, in order to guess the stock market. Much of that data is closed off or incomplete even through their API. There is no other option except to create another Twitter.
- fche 11y agoA commodity is a routinely interchangeable product, available from multiple suppliers, competing primarily on price. No, "data" in this context is not that at all. A library of user profiles is the opposite: it's proprietary, unique, massive.
- cLeEOGPw 11y agoSo this library isn't solving anything then.
- riscy 11y agoI think it solves something (needing a simple, well documented, GPL licensed machine learning framework written in C) but not the major problem faced by those on the cutting edge of machine learning.
- cJ0th 11y agoI think they stay within reason. IMO they don't say that being money driven is bad. It is rather that big, money driven companies can pose a problem. Maybe there is no monopoly on AI but there is certainly a monopoly on, for instance, social network data. However, I find it quite amusing (and perhaps "out of place") that the maintainer uses a gmail address.
- q3k 11y ago> "money driven companies" (as though money were a bad thing) It is a valid viewpoint to find money-driven companies as a “bad thing” (or more exactly, companies whose main goal is to maximize shareholder value).
- eggy 11y agoYou are correct. Money is just a way of measuring value that we agree upon that manifests itself in credit or paper currency, but is just an object. Appealing to the masses with "money driven companies" is an intellectually dishonest argument to froth it up a bit.