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Gneural will compete with Theano sort of like how the GNU Hurd competes with Linux

by jjawssd 11y ago

typon 11y ago
In other words, not at all
- mindcrime 11y ago
  That's not necessarily relevant though. I'm sure the FSF would love to see Free Software replace all proprietary software, but in the end, the real point is that Free Software options are available to the people who want them. This isn't like a battle between commercial entities where market share is king and a project will be dropped if it isn't profitable. Gneural will be a success if a community forms around it and people work on it and use it, however small that community might be.
  - niij 11y ago
    The problem I have with it is that they could be contributing their brain power and time to other open source projects instead of recreating the wheel for very little benefit. Take my opinion with a grain of salt, as I consider the more restrictive Copyleft licensing as new /loss/ for society.
teythoon 11y ago
I know you're just trying to be funny, but I don't think it's funny at all. The Linux kernel undoubtedly many features that the Hurd system lacks, but that is due to the severe lack of manpower of the latter system and the billions of Dollars being poured into the former. On the other hand the Hurd has features that the Linux kernel can never hope to achieve because of its architecture.
- Aeolos 11y ago
  > The Linux kernel undoubtedly many features that the Hurd system lacks, but that is due to the severe lack of manpower of the latter system and the billions of Dollars being poured into the former. That's why GNU Hurd is essentially a dead project. Sadly it never attracted the attention and manpower necessary for it to survive. > On the other hand the Hurd has features that the Linux kernel can never hope to achieve because of its architecture. For example?
  - teythoon 11y ago
    Fault isolation. We're doing it for daemons, we're doing it for web browsers, it is insane we're not doing it for operating system services. I bought a graphic tablet and the first time I plugged it into my laptop the Linux kernel crashed. And this was merely a faulty driver, not even malicious hardware. Also think of the effort it took to introduce namespaces to all the Linux subsystems. After a decade the user namespace still has problems. This is ridiculously easy on a distributed system, yet very hard on a monolithic one.
- jjawssd 11y ago
  I am not trying to be funny. I am dead serious. Aeolos explained it perfectly.

Gneural will compete with Theano sort of like how the GNU Hurd competes with Linux

by jjawssd 11y ago

Gneural will compete with Theano sort of like how the GNU Hurd competes with Linux

typon 11y ago

In other words, not at all

mindcrime 11y ago
That's not necessarily relevant though. I'm sure the FSF would love to see Free Software replace all proprietary software, but in the end, the real point is that Free Software options are available to the people who want them. This isn't like a battle between commercial entities where market share is king and a project will be dropped if it isn't profitable. Gneural will be a success if a community forms around it and people work on it and use it, however small that community might be.
- niij 11y ago
  The problem I have with it is that they could be contributing their brain power and time to other open source projects instead of recreating the wheel for very little benefit. Take my opinion with a grain of salt, as I consider the more restrictive Copyleft licensing as new /loss/ for society.

teythoon 11y ago

I know you're just trying to be funny, but I don't think it's funny at all. The Linux kernel undoubtedly many features that the Hurd system lacks, but that is due to the severe lack of manpower of the latter system and the billions of Dollars being poured into the former. On the other hand the Hurd has features that the Linux kernel can never hope to achieve because of its architecture.

Aeolos 11y ago
> The Linux kernel undoubtedly many features that the Hurd system lacks, but that is due to the severe lack of manpower of the latter system and the billions of Dollars being poured into the former. That's why GNU Hurd is essentially a dead project. Sadly it never attracted the attention and manpower necessary for it to survive. > On the other hand the Hurd has features that the Linux kernel can never hope to achieve because of its architecture. For example?
- teythoon 11y ago
  Fault isolation. We're doing it for daemons, we're doing it for web browsers, it is insane we're not doing it for operating system services. I bought a graphic tablet and the first time I plugged it into my laptop the Linux kernel crashed. And this was merely a faulty driver, not even malicious hardware. Also think of the effort it took to introduce namespaces to all the Linux subsystems. After a decade the user namespace still has problems. This is ridiculously easy on a distributed system, yet very hard on a monolithic one.
jjawssd 11y ago
I am not trying to be funny. I am dead serious. Aeolos explained it perfectly.