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how many homeless people have the means to sue sombody? And even if a case was offered pro bono (extremely unlikely before a huge media circus) how many could

by throwaway2048 11y ago

how many homeless people have the means to sue sombody? And even if a case was offered pro bono (extremely unlikely before a huge media circus) how many could even reasonably be capable of bringing suit then? how many police desk officers are going to give a shit about the rambling complaints of some homeless man they wish would just dissappear? If you really find it so incredible that homeless people end up abused, no matter what some corporate policy claims, you lack perspective. This is the powerful pushing out the weak in full display, guess which side has easier access to the law.

afarrell 11y ago
Lawyers take cases on contingency if they look like obvious wins against someone with deep pockets. The victims don't need to pay a cent.
- Mithaldu 11y ago
  Is "a guard from the google security team maced me" an easy win? What kind of evidence would be necessary to secure a win?
  - dogma1138 11y ago
    Hence the suggestion to go out and film this. If this is indeed such a common occurrence it wouldn't be hard to gather evidence.
    - DanBC 11y ago
      Imagine the submitted article had video. Do you think we wouldn't have people saying things like "there seems to be something off about this. We still only have one video, and it doesn't show what happened before the guard maced the homeless person. Maybe they were being aggressive?" We see similar comments in every thread where someone alleges injustice. (Often for good reasons - we don't want an uninformed pile on based on one person's account.)
      - tptacek 11y ago
        No, I think if you had video of a security guard macing a woman or a dude with both hands full of water jugs on a public sidewalk, you'd have plaintiff's lawyers coming out of the woodwork. Again: if it were police doing this, different story (ironically): it is much harder to sue a municipality, and there is an unfortunate presumption that police use of nonlethal force is almost invariably justified. But none of that is the case with private security.

afarrell 11y ago

Lawyers take cases on contingency if they look like obvious wins against someone with deep pockets. The victims don't need to pay a cent.

Mithaldu 11y ago
Is "a guard from the google security team maced me" an easy win? What kind of evidence would be necessary to secure a win?
- dogma1138 11y ago
  Hence the suggestion to go out and film this. If this is indeed such a common occurrence it wouldn't be hard to gather evidence.
  - DanBC 11y ago
    Imagine the submitted article had video. Do you think we wouldn't have people saying things like "there seems to be something off about this. We still only have one video, and it doesn't show what happened before the guard maced the homeless person. Maybe they were being aggressive?" We see similar comments in every thread where someone alleges injustice. (Often for good reasons - we don't want an uninformed pile on based on one person's account.)
    - tptacek 11y ago
      No, I think if you had video of a security guard macing a woman or a dude with both hands full of water jugs on a public sidewalk, you'd have plaintiff's lawyers coming out of the woodwork. Again: if it were police doing this, different story (ironically): it is much harder to sue a municipality, and there is an unfortunate presumption that police use of nonlethal force is almost invariably justified. But none of that is the case with private security.