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I like that analogy a lot! It's not like "playing Go really well" ever solved any real-world problem, it has always been a competition among humans. What should

by nothis 11y ago

I like that analogy a lot! It's not like "playing Go really well" ever solved any real-world problem, it has always been a competition among humans. What should change, there?

ng12 11y ago
I feel like the author completely misunderstood why AlphaGo is exciting. It's about advancements in technology and soft AI, Go has almost nothing to do with it.
- mquander 11y ago
  Maybe that's why AlphaGo is exciting to you. I don't give a shit about technology and AI compared to how much I want to watch AlphaGo play more games of Go, and I suppose that professionals probably feel the same way.
- nothis 11y ago
  Well, we're on hackernews, we like the tech stuff. For most of the world, this news is where people learn about Go and the human player's "humiliation" (whether or not the Go community sees it that way) is the story. I'd argue, though, that this is merely a proof of deep learning being able to solve "hard" problems. There's headlines everywhere about deep learning solving previously "impossible" image recognition problems, for example. Fields that are much more interesting and relevant in their real-world impact. AlphaGo, in comparison, seems like a PR/pet project. It mostly exists to play Go really well. It's a sub-branch of uses of the technology, not a start.
  - hkmurakami 11y ago
    >Well, we're on hackernews, we like the tech stuff. For most of the world, this news is where people learn about Go and the human player's "humiliation" (whether or not the Go community sees it that way) is the story. In that regard, Lee Sedol has done the game of Go a great service by being so gracious in defeat (and for once, the media headlines actually mirror his humility and maturity). That has actually been my lasting impression from the match.
- make3 11y ago
  we're slowly moving towards anticipation in continuous strategy games, and life. progressively better decisions/anticipation in progressively much much larger decision space is how this is relevant
pilingual 11y ago
If you like it a lot, let's make sure we credit Michael Redmond who said it last night during the Go match: https://youtu.be/qUAmTYHEyM8?t=3713 https://youtu.be/qUAmTYHEyM8?t=3713
ProAm 11y ago
No one will ever collect $200 dollars again

by nothis 11y ago

I like that analogy a lot! It's not like "playing Go really well" ever solved any real-world problem, it has always been a competition among humans. What should change, there?

ng12 11y ago

I feel like the author completely misunderstood why AlphaGo is exciting. It's about advancements in technology and soft AI, Go has almost nothing to do with it.

mquander 11y ago
Maybe that's why AlphaGo is exciting to you. I don't give a shit about technology and AI compared to how much I want to watch AlphaGo play more games of Go, and I suppose that professionals probably feel the same way.
nothis 11y ago
Well, we're on hackernews, we like the tech stuff. For most of the world, this news is where people learn about Go and the human player's "humiliation" (whether or not the Go community sees it that way) is the story. I'd argue, though, that this is merely a proof of deep learning being able to solve "hard" problems. There's headlines everywhere about deep learning solving previously "impossible" image recognition problems, for example. Fields that are much more interesting and relevant in their real-world impact. AlphaGo, in comparison, seems like a PR/pet project. It mostly exists to play Go really well. It's a sub-branch of uses of the technology, not a start.
- hkmurakami 11y ago
  >Well, we're on hackernews, we like the tech stuff. For most of the world, this news is where people learn about Go and the human player's "humiliation" (whether or not the Go community sees it that way) is the story. In that regard, Lee Sedol has done the game of Go a great service by being so gracious in defeat (and for once, the media headlines actually mirror his humility and maturity). That has actually been my lasting impression from the match.
make3 11y ago
we're slowly moving towards anticipation in continuous strategy games, and life. progressively better decisions/anticipation in progressively much much larger decision space is how this is relevant

pilingual 11y ago

If you like it a lot, let's make sure we credit Michael Redmond who said it last night during the Go match: https://youtu.be/qUAmTYHEyM8?t=3713 https://youtu.be/qUAmTYHEyM8?t=3713

ProAm 11y ago

No one will ever collect $200 dollars again