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You've introduced a means into your goal: goal: "encourage better intellectual works" means: "granting their creators temporary control of them" There are ot
by over 11y ago
You've introduced a means into your goal:
goal: "encourage better intellectual works"
means: "granting their creators temporary control of them"
There are other ways to meet that goal.
- EGreg 11y agoCan't the same be said about money laundering laws
- over 11y agoYeah, it was just a nitpick to clarify means and ends. I think the means and the ends need to be acceptable in any endeavor, one never justifies the other. But at the same time, one never disqualifies the other.
- cturner 11y agoYour point wasn't a nitpick. It is crucial to get the structures right, because otherwise the status quo easily hides behind non-obvious circular reasoning.
- coldtea 11y ago>There are other ways to meet that goal. And yet, judging from international laws, all lawmakers worldwide seem agree that a variation of the current method is the preferred one.
- over 11y agoThere are plenty of laws that give federal grants to artists and scholarships to graduate students.
- coldtea 11y agoThose are supplementary laws -- since all country also have similar copyright laws too. And 99% of those you mention are for avant garde, classical, jazz, traditional and other endangered species of art.
- deciplex 11y agoMost lawmakers worldwide have shitty ideas on most topics.
- coldtea 11y agoAnd most individual people, especially those involved in an industry only as consumers, have naive and ridiculous ideas of what would work.
- deciplex 11y agoIt's almost like, oh I don't know, a balance of consumer and business interests and input would lead to more acceptable outcomes for everyone, when drawing up policy, as opposed to shutting one side out of the discussion completely. Weird, eh?
- orionblastar 11y agoOriginal copyright law expired after so many years to fall into the public domain so others could use it and it made copyright holders invent new copyrights to encourage better intellectual works. Only Mickey Mouse was set to expire so Disney had the laws changed. The same with Time Warner aka DC Comics and Superman. So other companies can't use them as they will never fall into the public domain.
- eru 11y agoThat's a bit parochial --- I guess you are talking about the origin of copyright law in the US? The world is older than that country. Copyright law has its origins in censorship and rent seeking. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_copyright_law and the linked https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Anne https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_Anne and even further back.
- orionblastar 11y agoYes US copyright law is trying to be pushed on other nations. http://www.intellectualpropertylawfirms.com/resources/intellectual-property/copyrights/how-long-does http://www.intellectualpropertylawfirms.com/resources/intell... US copyright used to be only 14 years then it went into public domain. But it has been changed over the decades.
- digi_owl 11y agoThe biggest change happend in the 80s, when USA signed the Bern convention on copyright. Note btw that said convention was called to merge two systems of copyright. The English, and the "continental" (French). The English system was basically what the US system copied back in the day. It was mainly focused on the economic aspect and thus had a "short" duration. The French concept on the other hand, "rights of the author", was more focused on the reputation of the author, and thus had a long time frame (life of author+x years). It was about giving the author the ability to say "no you can't use my creation in your political campaign". Frankly, if i am to speculate, i would claim that USA stayed out of these conventions as long as it was importer rather than exporter.