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Well, I guess I can count myself amongst the "haters". Specifically, I noticed your > 4. I hate dynamic typing ... but I absolutely disagree with the phrasing

Well, I guess I can count myself amongst the "haters". Specifically, I noticed your > 4. I hate dynamic typing ... but I absolutely disagree with the phrasing. Your underlying assumption seems to be that "dynamic typing" is a Good Thing, by definition. I want to challenge that. Thing is... I don't hate dynamic typing[1] as long as everyone is being "consenting adults" about it (GvR)... I just LOVE static type checking since it helps people who absolutely hate each other to get along on >= 1 axis! So much so that I try to evangelize at every opportunity. > 5. Javascript is broken beyond repair This is a straw man. People usually have very specific and valid(!) objections to JS semantics... and, sure, they can and probably will be fixed at some point, but given the facts and constraints of the web platform it's going to take years and years. Personally, I'd want to be programming in a better language ASAP rather than in several years. [1] Should really be "dynamic type checking", but whatever.

andybak 11y ago
Yes. But my point is that not every discussion needs to be dominated by the well-known split between two factions who both have strong feelings about type systems. You have every right to evangelise - but try and try and avoid making top level comments on the matter unless it's on a post that specifically is discussing static vs dynamic typing. The subject gets enough airtime and it's good for other topics to get a look in. :-)
- lomnakkus 11y ago
  Ah, true. I think I may have missed your point entirely, but I'm not sure the blame rests entirely with me, FWIW. I think being more explicit about your point up-front ("the tease") and then elaborating ("the payoff") might have served your purposes better. I must say, I'm also not a fan of the almost-always-fake "balance" thing we see so much in journalism and television, FWIW. (Just as a trivial example there can be no "balance" between a Homeopath who claims to cure toothaches and a dentist. One is supported by massive amounts of a-priori plausible evidence and the other... isn't. Sorry about that mini-rant :).)

andybak 11y ago

Yes. But my point is that not every discussion needs to be dominated by the well-known split between two factions who both have strong feelings about type systems. You have every right to evangelise - but try and try and avoid making top level comments on the matter unless it's on a post that specifically is discussing static vs dynamic typing. The subject gets enough airtime and it's good for other topics to get a look in. :-)

lomnakkus 11y ago
Ah, true. I think I may have missed your point entirely, but I'm not sure the blame rests entirely with me, FWIW. I think being more explicit about your point up-front ("the tease") and then elaborating ("the payoff") might have served your purposes better. I must say, I'm also not a fan of the almost-always-fake "balance" thing we see so much in journalism and television, FWIW. (Just as a trivial example there can be no "balance" between a Homeopath who claims to cure toothaches and a dentist. One is supported by massive amounts of a-priori plausible evidence and the other... isn't. Sorry about that mini-rant :).)