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How is it leaps and bounds better than a MBP? You say that but don't offer any reason.

by eecks 11y ago

sergiosgc 11y ago
It's so obvious that I really don't need to be too technical. For the same price point, the X1C is thinner, lighter, has more ram, better cpu and a more dense display. There isn't a single objective measure where the X1C is worse than the MBP
- bluedino 11y ago
  Worse touchpad, less battery life, display scaling issues...
  - bruo 11y ago
    less battery life? i don't have an x1, but a x240 and doing the same things i get twice the battery of the last mbp i used when new. edit: but i used a different os, which could explain that too.
  - sergiosgc 11y ago
    Better TouchPad, namely because of the amazing ThinkPad buttons. And better yet, a trackpoint (although only for those that are used to the input method)
- eecks 11y ago
  It's not obvious at all. And it's not running OSX.
  - ergo14 11y ago
    But it can run linux just fine.
    - eecks 11y ago
      I'd rather not
- underwater 11y ago
  It's not as clear cut as you make it seem. I've used both devices, and while the Thinkpad clearly is a high quality device, subjectively I didn't feel like it was all that different from my MBP.
- romankolpak 11y ago
  We use MBPs and X1C as developer workstations in our company. Developers often complain about their Lenovo's, while MBP owners are generally happy. In my practice, MBP has better build quality, better battery life and better display. Lenovos gets pretty hot and noisy under load while MacBook is silent in the same exact situation (we're pair programming a lot and it's easy to compare).
  - tomjakubowski 11y ago
    > Lenovos gets pretty hot and noisy under load while MacBook is silent in the same exact situation This may be true for your experience with X1Cs, but it's hardly true for Lenovos in general. My t450s rarely makes any fan noise under stress, and it's never become uncomfortably hot to the touch like my work MBP has.
  - tomjakubowski 11y ago
    > Lenovos gets pretty hot and noisy under load while MacBook is silent in the same exact situation This may be true for your experience with X1Cs, but it's hardly true for Lenovos in general. My t450s rarely makes any fan noise under stress, and it's never become uncomfortably hot to the touch like my work MBP has. My work MBP also definitely gets very noisy if I'm pegging a core or three.
  - sergiosgc 11y ago
    Noticed that I said objective metrics? The objective qualifier is important, as it is impervious to distortion fields.
- JustSomeNobody 11y ago
  Objectively? The OS.
- gambiting 11y ago
  Of course there is. X1C flexes like it was made out of rubber. I can hold the edges of the display and it's terrifying what how much you can twist them. The aluminum case of the MBP tolerates heat better, the X1C get really loud under load while the MBP is much quieter. Touchpad is just incomparable. And of course, if you need OSX for work then only MBP provides that.

How is it leaps and bounds better than a MBP? You say that but don't offer any reason.

by eecks 11y ago

How is it leaps and bounds better than a MBP? You say that but don't offer any reason.

It's so obvious that I really don't need to be too technical. For the same price point, the X1C is thinner, lighter, has more ram, better cpu and a more dense display. There isn't a single objective measure where the X1C is worse than the MBP

bluedino 11y ago
Worse touchpad, less battery life, display scaling issues...
- bruo 11y ago
  less battery life? i don't have an x1, but a x240 and doing the same things i get twice the battery of the last mbp i used when new. edit: but i used a different os, which could explain that too.
- sergiosgc 11y ago
  Better TouchPad, namely because of the amazing ThinkPad buttons. And better yet, a trackpoint (although only for those that are used to the input method)
eecks 11y ago
It's not obvious at all. And it's not running OSX.
- ergo14 11y ago
  But it can run linux just fine.
  - eecks 11y ago
    I'd rather not
underwater 11y ago
It's not as clear cut as you make it seem. I've used both devices, and while the Thinkpad clearly is a high quality device, subjectively I didn't feel like it was all that different from my MBP.
romankolpak 11y ago
We use MBPs and X1C as developer workstations in our company. Developers often complain about their Lenovo's, while MBP owners are generally happy. In my practice, MBP has better build quality, better battery life and better display. Lenovos gets pretty hot and noisy under load while MacBook is silent in the same exact situation (we're pair programming a lot and it's easy to compare).
- tomjakubowski 11y ago
  > Lenovos gets pretty hot and noisy under load while MacBook is silent in the same exact situation This may be true for your experience with X1Cs, but it's hardly true for Lenovos in general. My t450s rarely makes any fan noise under stress, and it's never become uncomfortably hot to the touch like my work MBP has.
- tomjakubowski 11y ago
  > Lenovos gets pretty hot and noisy under load while MacBook is silent in the same exact situation This may be true for your experience with X1Cs, but it's hardly true for Lenovos in general. My t450s rarely makes any fan noise under stress, and it's never become uncomfortably hot to the touch like my work MBP has. My work MBP also definitely gets very noisy if I'm pegging a core or three.
- sergiosgc 11y ago
  Noticed that I said objective metrics? The objective qualifier is important, as it is impervious to distortion fields.
JustSomeNobody 11y ago
Objectively? The OS.
gambiting 11y ago
Of course there is. X1C flexes like it was made out of rubber. I can hold the edges of the display and it's terrifying what how much you can twist them. The aluminum case of the MBP tolerates heat better, the X1C get really loud under load while the MBP is much quieter. Touchpad is just incomparable. And of course, if you need OSX for work then only MBP provides that.