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When I play chess against a computer I can see very easily that I'm not winning.

• GolDDranks 11y ago
  But that is most likely be because of the structure of Chess. The evaluation of single board position is more "linear" and certainly easier than in Go. If the utility function is about winning, going though easily-evalutable board positions might be the straightforward route. If the utility function is to win while minimizing your estimate of of you losing, you might see different results. Plus if you know that you are playing against a stronger opponent, your prior might bias your perception of the board situation.
  • pmoriarty 11y ago
    It would be interesting to see how computers fare against humans on a 19x19 chess board, and how easily a human could evaluate such a board.
• jacquesm 11y ago
  The question is not if you can see that or not. The question is if you can see that earlier than the computer can see that it is winning.
  • jules 11y ago
    If that is what is meant then you can't see that you're losing against any player that's any stronger than yourself by definition, because if you could see it earlier you wouldn't have made that move.
    • mastazi 11y ago
      Which is exactly what the parent meant
    • hyperpape 11y ago
      As a club level go player (4 kyu AGA) I disagree. When you play against a much stronger human, you very quickly see moves that frustrate your plans, and find yourself struggling to find moves that work. It's common for the opening to pass by without feeling behind--Go doesn't have set openings to the same extent as chess, but if you play joseki, you might have an opening where the weaker player feels ok. Even that is not guaranteed, but once you start fighting, you will quickly feel the strength difference. Of course you can play a move that looks good when you play it, but against a much stronger player, it doesn't take long for it to look bad.
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