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It doesn't break any laws since I don't play any videos which have forbidden embedding. Plus, technology like that has been mainstream in VLC, youtube-dl, etc,

It doesn't break any laws since I don't play any videos which have forbidden embedding. Plus, technology like that has been mainstream in VLC, youtube-dl, etc, for ages. It uses the official YouTube API, and respects mosts of the Terms of Service, except the video fetching, which doesn't use the API at all, just loads the page on the server and catches the video stream.

imaginenore 11y ago
Embedding and scraping into a video tag aren't the same thing. As soon as you store any of their content on your server, even if in just RAM, you're fucked, because that's copyright infringement.
- k33n 11y ago
  Do you always give people legal advice based on your wild fantasies about how law works?
  - imaginenore 11y ago
    Correct me, if you think I'm wrong.
  - dang 11y ago
    Please don't be uncivil on Hacker News, whether someone else is wrong or not.
- spyder 11y ago
  > you're fucked, because that's copyright infringement. Tell this to the hundreds of online youtube downloaders which are downloading youtube videos to their servers and then making it available for the user to download it from them: https://www.google.hu/search?q=online+youtube+downloader https://www.google.hu/search?q=online+youtube+downloader
milankragujevic 11y ago
@imaginenore: They're not, but if the video is licensed for embedding that means that I can't be sued for copyright infringement, plus the standard "linking != infringement" applies.
- xrstf 11y ago
  You are breaking several of YouTube's TOS (https://www.youtube.com/static?template=terms https://www.youtube.com/static?template=terms) > (5A) you agree not to distribute any part of or parts of the Website or the Service, including but not limited to any Content By downloading and sending the videos from your servers, you are distributing their content. > (5C) you agree not to access Content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the Website itself, the YouTube Player, or such other means as YouTube may explicitly designate for this purpose Downloading a video via CLI is not using the YouTube player. > (5D) you agree not to (or attempt to) circumvent, disable or otherwise interfere with any security related features of the Service or features that (i) prevent or restrict use or copying of Content or (ii) enforce limitations on use of the Service or the content accessible via the Service By removing ads you are interfering with the restriction that users must watch ads. > (5L) [...] not intended to be downloaded (either permanently or temporarily), copied, stored, or redistributed by the user. Should be obvious. > (5M) You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content You are copying and distributing the content.
  - milankragujevic 11y ago
    Tbh, Im not distributing anything, they are, I just hotlink the video file. Also, anyone using an adblocker is also doing the same thing, yet youtube isnt blocking adblockers.
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imaginenore 11y ago

Embedding and scraping into a video tag aren't the same thing. As soon as you store any of their content on your server, even if in just RAM, you're fucked, because that's copyright infringement.

k33n 11y ago
Do you always give people legal advice based on your wild fantasies about how law works?
- imaginenore 11y ago
  Correct me, if you think I'm wrong.
- dang 11y ago
  Please don't be uncivil on Hacker News, whether someone else is wrong or not.
spyder 11y ago
> you're fucked, because that's copyright infringement. Tell this to the hundreds of online youtube downloaders which are downloading youtube videos to their servers and then making it available for the user to download it from them: https://www.google.hu/search?q=online+youtube+downloader https://www.google.hu/search?q=online+youtube+downloader

milankragujevic 11y ago

@imaginenore: They're not, but if the video is licensed for embedding that means that I can't be sued for copyright infringement, plus the standard "linking != infringement" applies.

xrstf 11y ago
You are breaking several of YouTube's TOS (https://www.youtube.com/static?template=terms https://www.youtube.com/static?template=terms) > (5A) you agree not to distribute any part of or parts of the Website or the Service, including but not limited to any Content By downloading and sending the videos from your servers, you are distributing their content. > (5C) you agree not to access Content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the Website itself, the YouTube Player, or such other means as YouTube may explicitly designate for this purpose Downloading a video via CLI is not using the YouTube player. > (5D) you agree not to (or attempt to) circumvent, disable or otherwise interfere with any security related features of the Service or features that (i) prevent or restrict use or copying of Content or (ii) enforce limitations on use of the Service or the content accessible via the Service By removing ads you are interfering with the restriction that users must watch ads. > (5L) [...] not intended to be downloaded (either permanently or temporarily), copied, stored, or redistributed by the user. Should be obvious. > (5M) You shall not copy, reproduce, distribute, transmit, broadcast, display, sell, license, or otherwise exploit any Content You are copying and distributing the content.
- milankragujevic 11y ago
  Tbh, Im not distributing anything, they are, I just hotlink the video file. Also, anyone using an adblocker is also doing the same thing, yet youtube isnt blocking adblockers.
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