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Measuring time intervals in years for everything JS related is to imprecise. "State of the Art in 3/2016" or at least quarterly would make more sense.

seanp2k2 11y ago
Sadly, I had the same thought. By the time you + your team get on that latest greatest, it's now been usurped. I really hope that the JS communities can come together for some common needs and have just a couple of "paved road" solutions. I can only imagine how confusing the current state of affairs is for someone who "[just] wants to get started building modern JavaScript apps"
- davidjnelson 11y ago
  I think a good mindset for building modern javascript apps is that they are full featured desktop / mobile apps, just like a windows / mac / ios / android native app. By definition these types of apps are complex, and always have been, but they are highly valuable! Looking at it from the lens of "web apps are just some html and css with a little jquery" is a mindset that can make building very ambitious web applications seem disproportionately difficult.
davidjnelson 11y ago
Hmm, I haven't found this to be true. I researched and chose nearly the same stack at work about six months ago, except I chose and we use immutable.js, es7 async functions, flow, and axios. What seems to be about right is that javascript spa frameworks go on two year hype cycles if you look at backbone->angular->react. I suspect react will buck this trend though because it's so heavily used in production consumer apps at facebook/instagram, because of react-native because it got components so right that it's almost hard to build ridiculously long "controllers" when using it, and that it's one way data flow make it a lot harder to write an app with state spread out all over the place rather than in a single client side data model. But who knows, time will tell :-)
- tobltobs 11y ago
  Yeah, this time it's different ...

seanp2k2 11y ago

Sadly, I had the same thought. By the time you + your team get on that latest greatest, it's now been usurped. I really hope that the JS communities can come together for some common needs and have just a couple of "paved road" solutions. I can only imagine how confusing the current state of affairs is for someone who "[just] wants to get started building modern JavaScript apps"

davidjnelson 11y ago
I think a good mindset for building modern javascript apps is that they are full featured desktop / mobile apps, just like a windows / mac / ios / android native app. By definition these types of apps are complex, and always have been, but they are highly valuable! Looking at it from the lens of "web apps are just some html and css with a little jquery" is a mindset that can make building very ambitious web applications seem disproportionately difficult.

davidjnelson 11y ago

Hmm, I haven't found this to be true. I researched and chose nearly the same stack at work about six months ago, except I chose and we use immutable.js, es7 async functions, flow, and axios. What seems to be about right is that javascript spa frameworks go on two year hype cycles if you look at backbone->angular->react. I suspect react will buck this trend though because it's so heavily used in production consumer apps at facebook/instagram, because of react-native because it got components so right that it's almost hard to build ridiculously long "controllers" when using it, and that it's one way data flow make it a lot harder to write an app with state spread out all over the place rather than in a single client side data model. But who knows, time will tell :-)

tobltobs 11y ago
Yeah, this time it's different ...