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tech worker's middle-class wages Tech workers salaries in SF are anything but middle class. If you're single and making more than $72k per year, you're in the

by dsp1234 11y ago

tech worker's middle-class wages Tech workers salaries in SF are anything but middle class. If you're single and making more than $72k per year, you're in the upper class. "The three highest-paying positions in San Francisco, as self-reported by Glassdoor members, are all in tech. The average salary in San Francisco for a data scientist is $127,000 a year; software engineers make $103,000 a year; and database administrators earn $77,000."[0] [0] - http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/09/are-you-in-the-american-middle-class/ http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2015/12/09/are-you-in-t... [1] - http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/loans/student-loans/average-salary-in-san-francisco/ http://www.nerdwallet.com/blog/loans/student-loans/average-s...

browseatwork 11y ago
It depends on the tech worker. Not all tech workers are in those roles. It'd be interesting to see the distribution of all tech salaries. Entry level marketing, support, qa, and sales are all in tech, too. https://medium.com/@taliajane/an-open-letter-to-my-ceo-fb73df021e7a https://medium.com/@taliajane/an-open-letter-to-my-ceo-fb73d... I wonder how popular Glassdoor is outside of tech. And there's always the uncertainty about how accurate it is. The calculator says: "One limitation of the calculator is that the income range that defines each income tier does not vary across regions or cities within the U.S. If you live in a relatively expensive area, such as New York City, it is possible that the calculator places you in a higher income tier than it might if a cost of living adjustment had been made. Conversely, if you live in an inexpensive part of the country, the calculator may place you in a lower income tier than it otherwise might."
mmanfrin 11y ago
If you're single and making more than $72k per year, you're in the upper class This is dead wrong. SF Median household income is 77k, average is 104k. Earning 72k does not put you in the upper class, not in the slightest.
- kafkaesq 11y ago
  This is dead wrong. "Upper-middle class" may have been a better description for tech worker incomes, on average. Which I'm sure you know caries a very different cachet, socially and politically, than "middle class" Basic point being (and more germane to the thread as a whole) "middle class" as a label for tech workers is clearly off base.
  - mmanfrin 11y ago
    72k isn't even 'upper-middle'. You have been backpedalling all over, and in another comment even claimed 50k was the number for 'middle class'. You have no idea what middle class means or you are trolling.
    - kafkaesq 11y ago
      You're referring to household income. The context of this sub-thread (starting 3 up from here) clearly referred to "salary", a.k.a. personal income. The two categories are, of course, very different. Which explains the great bulk of the noise in this discussion. You might want to read things more carefully before accusing people of backpedalling and trolling, in other words.
    - ryandrake 11y ago
      The real upper class laughs at you guys arguing amongst yourselves over what qualifies as "middle class" and "upper middle class" and "upper lower middle class" and "lower middle upper middle class". So silly.
WildUtah 11y ago
"Tech workers salaries in SF are anything but middle class. If you're single and making more than $72k per year, you're in the upper class." Yeah, in Dipstick, Nebraska. But in SF $72k isn't upper class or even middle class.

by dsp1234 11y ago

browseatwork 11y ago

It depends on the tech worker. Not all tech workers are in those roles. It'd be interesting to see the distribution of all tech salaries. Entry level marketing, support, qa, and sales are all in tech, too. https://medium.com/@taliajane/an-open-letter-to-my-ceo-fb73df021e7a https://medium.com/@taliajane/an-open-letter-to-my-ceo-fb73d... I wonder how popular Glassdoor is outside of tech. And there's always the uncertainty about how accurate it is. The calculator says: "One limitation of the calculator is that the income range that defines each income tier does not vary across regions or cities within the U.S. If you live in a relatively expensive area, such as New York City, it is possible that the calculator places you in a higher income tier than it might if a cost of living adjustment had been made. Conversely, if you live in an inexpensive part of the country, the calculator may place you in a lower income tier than it otherwise might."

mmanfrin 11y ago

If you're single and making more than $72k per year, you're in the upper class This is dead wrong. SF Median household income is 77k, average is 104k. Earning 72k does not put you in the upper class, not in the slightest.

kafkaesq 11y ago
This is dead wrong. "Upper-middle class" may have been a better description for tech worker incomes, on average. Which I'm sure you know caries a very different cachet, socially and politically, than "middle class" Basic point being (and more germane to the thread as a whole) "middle class" as a label for tech workers is clearly off base.
- mmanfrin 11y ago
  72k isn't even 'upper-middle'. You have been backpedalling all over, and in another comment even claimed 50k was the number for 'middle class'. You have no idea what middle class means or you are trolling.
  - kafkaesq 11y ago
    You're referring to household income. The context of this sub-thread (starting 3 up from here) clearly referred to "salary", a.k.a. personal income. The two categories are, of course, very different. Which explains the great bulk of the noise in this discussion. You might want to read things more carefully before accusing people of backpedalling and trolling, in other words.
  - ryandrake 11y ago
    The real upper class laughs at you guys arguing amongst yourselves over what qualifies as "middle class" and "upper middle class" and "upper lower middle class" and "lower middle upper middle class". So silly.

WildUtah 11y ago

"Tech workers salaries in SF are anything but middle class. If you're single and making more than $72k per year, you're in the upper class." Yeah, in Dipstick, Nebraska. But in SF $72k isn't upper class or even middle class.