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No, it's not a complete nonsense, no. People abusing Java with overengineering and using factories and other enterprisey design patterns for everything made a l

• wtetzner 11y ago
  A "static factory" is just a static method. You know, a function. Nothing over-engineered or enterprisey about using functions to allocate objects.
  • nikolay 11y ago
    Why state the obvious?
    • wtetzner 11y ago
      > Why state the obvious? So you think using functions is enterprisey and over-engineering things?
      • nikolay 11y ago
        Read my other reply to you on the subject! The API might be a small syntactic change, but the concepts and the implementation behind those for noobs are not. They learn OOP and constructors and then you tell them - they suck, use factories via static methods.
        • wtetzner 11y ago
          Yes, but that's a fault in Java the language. Keeping Java bad doesn't solve that problem.
          • nikolay 11y ago
            I agree. A little native support for wide-spread best practices would only be a good thing for Java.
• wtetzner 11y ago
  > People abusing Java with overengineering and using factories and other enterprisey design patterns for everything made a lot of people leave the Java land! Actually, people left Java land because they couldn't express what they needed to without using complicated design patterns.