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If a real football team did this I think it would work. Why don't they? Which step is the unrealistic one in the game?

by rfergie 11y ago

laxatives 11y ago
What are the odds any football team would produce a single Ronaldo or Messi from a youth prospect? What are the odds they would produce a team full of them at every position?
Malarkey73 11y ago
Having an objective measure of each players skills and their potential. FIFA EA - Dribbling Ability: 23 (subjective) Moneyball - On Base Percentage 23% (objective)
koyote 11y ago
Some of them sort of do or are trying to do this already. Arsenal actually bought StatDNA, a football data analytics company, a couple of years ago. So time will tell how they will use this to their advantage.
mkohlmyr 11y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Masia#Alumni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Masia#Alumni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_F%C3%A1brica#Notable_Alumni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_F%C3%A1brica#Notable_Alumni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_Youth_Academy#Notable_former_players https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_Youth_Academy#Notable_for... Presumably the unrealistic part is the how well it is possible to predict who will excel to a world class level. You take base athleticism and technical ability and you can clearly produce national league quality players very predictably and consistently. One would assume it is more difficult to judge future world-class potential and even more so the likelihood that potential will be lived up to.
jmngomes 11y ago
> Which step is the unrealistic one in the game? In real life, "finding all the Uber Wunderkids who can easily be bought" is actually extremely hard, as there are too many external factors that could determine if a wunderkid becomes a Ronaldo, as demonstrated by several talented athletes that achieved nothing. Plus, a lot of those factors are hard for an algorithm to "handle", e.g. luck in finding/identifying a wunderkid, getting him motivated and committed, him having enough maturity to work on improving and the psychological resilience to withstand what comes with the job, etc etc...

If a real football team did this I think it would work. Why don't they? Which step is the unrealistic one in the game?

by rfergie 11y ago

If a real football team did this I think it would work. Why don't they? Which step is the unrealistic one in the game?

What are the odds any football team would produce a single Ronaldo or Messi from a youth prospect? What are the odds they would produce a team full of them at every position?

Malarkey73 11y ago

Having an objective measure of each players skills and their potential. FIFA EA - Dribbling Ability: 23 (subjective) Moneyball - On Base Percentage 23% (objective)

koyote 11y ago

Some of them sort of do or are trying to do this already. Arsenal actually bought StatDNA, a football data analytics company, a couple of years ago. So time will tell how they will use this to their advantage.

mkohlmyr 11y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Masia#Alumni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Masia#Alumni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_F%C3%A1brica#Notable_Alumni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_F%C3%A1brica#Notable_Alumni https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_Youth_Academy#Notable_former_players https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ajax_Youth_Academy#Notable_for... Presumably the unrealistic part is the how well it is possible to predict who will excel to a world class level. You take base athleticism and technical ability and you can clearly produce national league quality players very predictably and consistently. One would assume it is more difficult to judge future world-class potential and even more so the likelihood that potential will be lived up to.

jmngomes 11y ago

> Which step is the unrealistic one in the game? In real life, "finding all the Uber Wunderkids who can easily be bought" is actually extremely hard, as there are too many external factors that could determine if a wunderkid becomes a Ronaldo, as demonstrated by several talented athletes that achieved nothing. Plus, a lot of those factors are hard for an algorithm to "handle", e.g. luck in finding/identifying a wunderkid, getting him motivated and committed, him having enough maturity to work on improving and the psychological resilience to withstand what comes with the job, etc etc...