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Do people outside of "The Web is for documents only!" camp really hate Flash? I've had many good web experiences thanks to Flash (granted, mostly movies and gam

by rtpg 11y ago

Do people outside of "The Web is for documents only!" camp really hate Flash? I've had many good web experiences thanks to Flash (granted, mostly movies and games, but still...) People on HN seem to discount how absolutely amazing it is to have a VM that can almost seamlessly connect to a network and pull down awesome programs!

dietrichepp 11y ago
I'm a big fan of Web Assembly but I've hated Flash for a long time. Flash apps tended to peg the CPU and shorten battery life on my laptop, even though most were inconsequential to the web pages that used them (ads). Constant security holes left me paranoid. Crashes left me frustrated. I can't count how many times that Flash crashed on me. The UI of most Flash apps left many things to be desired. From a technical perspective, it was also a deeply flawed design with a mediocre implementation from one vendor. Most video sites which use Flash seem to be far inferior to their HTML+JavaScript counterparts, only the biggest sites ever had decent flash players (Vimeo, YouTube), and I've noticed that some Flash video players can't really handle full screen video with the performance that they should. Ugh. I was glad so many years ago when Flash stopped being bundled with the OS, so I didn't need to take any extra steps to avoid it.
reitanqild 11y ago
I find myself kind of pragmatic but I hated Flash because once it was available people used it for everything, even stuff that never needed it in the first place.
stray 11y ago
Flash is great -- I love being forced to update flash every 20 minutes.
CaptSpify 11y ago
Flash does provide a lot of nice/cool things. The problem is it was abused because it was "cool". If we could get people to use it only when necessary, then I probably would have been OK with it. Too many people end up using this in inappropriate places.

by rtpg 11y ago

dietrichepp 11y ago

I'm a big fan of Web Assembly but I've hated Flash for a long time. Flash apps tended to peg the CPU and shorten battery life on my laptop, even though most were inconsequential to the web pages that used them (ads). Constant security holes left me paranoid. Crashes left me frustrated. I can't count how many times that Flash crashed on me. The UI of most Flash apps left many things to be desired. From a technical perspective, it was also a deeply flawed design with a mediocre implementation from one vendor. Most video sites which use Flash seem to be far inferior to their HTML+JavaScript counterparts, only the biggest sites ever had decent flash players (Vimeo, YouTube), and I've noticed that some Flash video players can't really handle full screen video with the performance that they should. Ugh. I was glad so many years ago when Flash stopped being bundled with the OS, so I didn't need to take any extra steps to avoid it.

reitanqild 11y ago

I find myself kind of pragmatic but I hated Flash because once it was available people used it for everything, even stuff that never needed it in the first place.

stray 11y ago

Flash is great -- I love being forced to update flash every 20 minutes.

CaptSpify 11y ago

Flash does provide a lot of nice/cool things. The problem is it was abused because it was "cool". If we could get people to use it only when necessary, then I probably would have been OK with it. Too many people end up using this in inappropriate places.