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MS's business model is not you And this is why it pings the mothership endlessly even when explicitly told not to? Even on Enterprise SKUs? W10, for me, repre
by Karunamon 11y ago
MS's business model is not you
And this is why it pings the mothership endlessly even when explicitly told not to? Even on Enterprise SKUs?
W10, for me, represents an new, scary era of the OS working against my desires and interests, rather than for. When I say "telemetry off", I fucking mean OFF. I don't care what Microsoft says they're gathering or for what reason or for how much of my own good it is, that is a level of control that as the owner of the computer, I should have.
- mirimir 11y agoYou need to block what you don't want in the LAN router.
- TrevorJ 11y agoThat's the point. You shouldn't have to do that. Why should I be forced to expend any energy at all securing myself FROM my OS?
- mirimir 11y agoBecause Microsoft ;) And yes, I totally agree. Linux and BSD are good. Even OSX. But if you need Windows for whatever reason, you do what's necessary.
- cm2187 11y agoThe problem with OSX is the very expensive hardware (and worrying signs that Apple is progressively locking down the OS). The problem with Linux is that unless you are trying to do something really really basic, you will be facing a command prompt, and then you have to RTFM. No time or appetite for that (and the perspective to have to "compile my own drivers" gives me the chills). I wish their was a cheap/free alternative with a decent UI.
- KirinDave 11y agoAsk friends at Canonical. Or Apple. Why does only Microsoft get called on this?
- mirimir 11y agoI won't use Ubuntu, for the same reason. I don't know OSX enough to have an opinion. But Microsoft has way crossed the line with Win 10.
- Silhouette 11y agoThey don't. Canonical got roasted when they pulled a similar fast one. Apple have been criticised for their own phone-home funny business. But neither Apple nor Canonical has ever gone to the lengths Microsoft is going to in Windows 10 in terms of phone-home and automatically applied updates, even on iOS mobile devices.
- KirinDave 11y ago> But neither Apple nor Canonical has ever gone to the lengths Microsoft is going to in Windows 10 in terms of phone-home Citation please. This seems like an opinion rather than a fact, as Apple's had at least 3 major privacy scandals involving iOS that I can name offhand. Remember when Apple was like, "We do not currently/We no longer put that spyware on your phone?" > and automatically applied updates I agree here, but this is a muddier issue. You _could_ adopt Apple's "we create an upgrade for older hardware but it's actually a shit upgrade that not only doesn't give you new functionality but makes your device slower since it's not our primary performance target but btw Apps will force you to upgrade" modality. Obviously, I take a dim view of that, as it's not really "not" forced. As for forced upgrades on Canonical. They won't force your computer to upgrade, but if you don't you'll end up in a situation where you have no choice but to totally reinstall your OS, they'll discontinue hosting the bridge patches. So unless you were very careful setting up your OS (and no, the Ubuntu installer doesn't do that automatically), you can end up in an ugly situation where you need to backup your data and reinstall like it's 2003. Or you could take MS's tack which is, "You NEED to upgrade. Now. Infosec and our product roadmap won't wait for you to feel comfortable with this." All of these approaches have downsides.
- KirinDave 11y agoI hope you have no mobile devices.