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Funding doesn't help enough by itself, and the poor school districts get supplemental funds from federal and state governments bringing their total funding on p

Funding doesn't help enough by itself, and the poor school districts get supplemental funds from federal and state governments bringing their total funding on par or higher than richer school districts. I went through poor public schools and richer public schools. Resources were not very different. If anything less competition at poor schools gave me an extra edge.

Throwaway23412 11y ago
"the poor school districts get supplemental funds from federal and state governments bringing their total funding on par or higher than richer school districts" Citation needed. Just a casual web search for your claim seems to be yielding the opposite conclusion. My anecdotal experience from moving around a lot (over half a dozen public schools from kindergarten to 12th grade) also contradicts your claim. Competition at richer schools has definitely given me an extra edge. The phrase "competition at poor schools" is also oxymoronic. What competition? Competition in classmates ignoring teachers and fights constantly erupting? The gulf between poor schools and rich schools is ridiculous. Some schools offer several Advanced Placement courses, several International Baccalaureate courses, and partnerships with multiple nearby colleges for college courses. Students at poorer schools don't even know what AP and IB courses are. You don't know competition until the top 10% of your graduating class are either all going to Ivy League and prestigious colleges or all already have credit for college courses before even applying to college. And I was just talking about the insane competition from fellow students. School resources and personnel are another matter. State-of-the-art SMART Boards. Laptops. Tablets. Multiple fields for multiple sports. Paid field trips. Study abroad. A robust student exchange program. Multiple year foreign language programs in around half a dozen languages. Teachers with multiple/advanced degrees. Several guidance counselors. Multiple vice/assistant principals. Multiple coaches. I am genuinely curious what edge you think a poor school gave you.
- ageek123 11y ago
  Google LCFF California
Mikeb85 11y ago
> If anything less competition at poor schools gave me an extra edge. How so? Are they curving grades? Smaller class sizes because of more drop-outs? More teacher attention because you cared more than the 'poor' kids?
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- jessaustin 11y ago
  Obviously OP meant it is easier to get higher class rank/valedictorian at poor noncompetitive schools than at rich competitive schools. Many colleges use class rank when deciding admittance.
  - Mikeb85 11y ago
    The wonders of the US education system never cease to amaze me. Are tests not standardized that class rank matters? When I first entered university here, grade average was all that mattered. Certain grades even guarantee university acceptance...
    - jessaustin 11y ago
      I would suggest two things. First, you have seriously underestimated the variation among secondary educational institutions in USA, a mistake that no USA college admissions process would make. Second, even in the context of the fortunate realm in which you attend university, a "good grades guarantee acceptance" policy probably somewhat underestimates the variation among secondary educational institutions there.
      - Mikeb85 11y ago
        Probably because the country I live in has much less variation in the quality of secondary education. The fact the US hasn't figured out how to offer a consistent level of K-12 education is, quite frankly, mind-boggling (along with the lack of health care, and many other things we take for granted in the rest of the 'western' world).

Throwaway23412 11y ago

"the poor school districts get supplemental funds from federal and state governments bringing their total funding on par or higher than richer school districts" Citation needed. Just a casual web search for your claim seems to be yielding the opposite conclusion. My anecdotal experience from moving around a lot (over half a dozen public schools from kindergarten to 12th grade) also contradicts your claim. Competition at richer schools has definitely given me an extra edge. The phrase "competition at poor schools" is also oxymoronic. What competition? Competition in classmates ignoring teachers and fights constantly erupting? The gulf between poor schools and rich schools is ridiculous. Some schools offer several Advanced Placement courses, several International Baccalaureate courses, and partnerships with multiple nearby colleges for college courses. Students at poorer schools don't even know what AP and IB courses are. You don't know competition until the top 10% of your graduating class are either all going to Ivy League and prestigious colleges or all already have credit for college courses before even applying to college. And I was just talking about the insane competition from fellow students. School resources and personnel are another matter. State-of-the-art SMART Boards. Laptops. Tablets. Multiple fields for multiple sports. Paid field trips. Study abroad. A robust student exchange program. Multiple year foreign language programs in around half a dozen languages. Teachers with multiple/advanced degrees. Several guidance counselors. Multiple vice/assistant principals. Multiple coaches. I am genuinely curious what edge you think a poor school gave you.

ageek123 11y ago
Google LCFF California

Mikeb85 11y ago

> If anything less competition at poor schools gave me an extra edge. How so? Are they curving grades? Smaller class sizes because of more drop-outs? More teacher attention because you cared more than the 'poor' kids?

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jessaustin 11y ago
Obviously OP meant it is easier to get higher class rank/valedictorian at poor noncompetitive schools than at rich competitive schools. Many colleges use class rank when deciding admittance.
- Mikeb85 11y ago
  The wonders of the US education system never cease to amaze me. Are tests not standardized that class rank matters? When I first entered university here, grade average was all that mattered. Certain grades even guarantee university acceptance...
  - jessaustin 11y ago
    I would suggest two things. First, you have seriously underestimated the variation among secondary educational institutions in USA, a mistake that no USA college admissions process would make. Second, even in the context of the fortunate realm in which you attend university, a "good grades guarantee acceptance" policy probably somewhat underestimates the variation among secondary educational institutions there.
    - Mikeb85 11y ago
      Probably because the country I live in has much less variation in the quality of secondary education. The fact the US hasn't figured out how to offer a consistent level of K-12 education is, quite frankly, mind-boggling (along with the lack of health care, and many other things we take for granted in the rest of the 'western' world).