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In a professional context it is essential that people can express disagreement provided they write exact reasons why they disagree. You know, "+1" usually has

by rlidwka 11y ago

In a professional context it is essential that people can express disagreement provided they write exact reasons why they disagree. You know, "+1" usually has only one meaning: - "I agree with whatever you're saying". "-1" has however two separate meanings: - "I disagree with whatever you're saying because I believe that blah-blah-blah (reasons here)" - "I disagree with whatever you're saying because fuck you that's why" And "-1" button doesn't distinguish between those two cases.

bunkat 11y ago
If somebody gives your comment a -1 without a reason, and you are of the opinion that disagreement is only valid given a precise argument - can't you just ignore the -1's? I'm not sure why this is such an emotional topic. Maybe I just have thick skin, but some random stranger on the internet giving me a down vote is not really even going to give me a moment of pause. Let alone so much that I feel that I have to demand rationalization from every person that cares to disagree with me.
Karunamon 11y ago
You know, "+1" usually has only one meaning: Nonsense. - Agreement: "I agree with whatever you're saying" - Contributory : "I don't agree with what you're saying, but you elaborated your point *very* well and contributed to the discussion" - Mercy: "I don't agree with what you're saying, but the hivemind punished you for no good reason, have an upvote" - Popularity: "I like you and will +1 anything you write" - Thanks: "I like what you did even if this post isn't relevant" The second and third one are very common on sites like HN, certain places on Reddit, and Stack* Downvotes have: - Disagreement: "I disagree with what you're saying" - Anger: "Fuck you, have a downvote" - Doesn't contribute: "I might agree, but you're not helping the discussion" - Incorrect: "This isn't about agreement, your advice is wrong and/or harmful"
- b1449835 11y ago
  So, how about tagging individual comments and then voting for the tags?
  - Karunamon 11y ago
    I like this idea, even having preset tags ala slashdot. Always maintained that this would make Reddit a much nicer place. Implement the vote tags, and then give people the ability to sort by votes, filtering out votes for disagreement.
- rlidwka 11y ago
  "Popularity" and "Thanks" happen, those aren't very strong emotions. Sure people +1 post or two, but it wears off quickly. "Mercy" is a very popular way to counteract -1's, but it disappears if we get rid of the ability to minus a post. I believe "Contributory" is very rare as is. Hard to distinguish it from "Agreement" though.

by rlidwka 11y ago

bunkat 11y ago

If somebody gives your comment a -1 without a reason, and you are of the opinion that disagreement is only valid given a precise argument - can't you just ignore the -1's? I'm not sure why this is such an emotional topic. Maybe I just have thick skin, but some random stranger on the internet giving me a down vote is not really even going to give me a moment of pause. Let alone so much that I feel that I have to demand rationalization from every person that cares to disagree with me.

Karunamon 11y ago

You know, "+1" usually has only one meaning: Nonsense. - Agreement: "I agree with whatever you're saying" - Contributory : "I don't agree with what you're saying, but you elaborated your point *very* well and contributed to the discussion" - Mercy: "I don't agree with what you're saying, but the hivemind punished you for no good reason, have an upvote" - Popularity: "I like you and will +1 anything you write" - Thanks: "I like what you did even if this post isn't relevant" The second and third one are very common on sites like HN, certain places on Reddit, and Stack* Downvotes have: - Disagreement: "I disagree with what you're saying" - Anger: "Fuck you, have a downvote" - Doesn't contribute: "I might agree, but you're not helping the discussion" - Incorrect: "This isn't about agreement, your advice is wrong and/or harmful"

b1449835 11y ago
So, how about tagging individual comments and then voting for the tags?
- Karunamon 11y ago
  I like this idea, even having preset tags ala slashdot. Always maintained that this would make Reddit a much nicer place. Implement the vote tags, and then give people the ability to sort by votes, filtering out votes for disagreement.
rlidwka 11y ago
"Popularity" and "Thanks" happen, those aren't very strong emotions. Sure people +1 post or two, but it wears off quickly. "Mercy" is a very popular way to counteract -1's, but it disappears if we get rid of the ability to minus a post. I believe "Contributory" is very rare as is. Hard to distinguish it from "Agreement" though.