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> ... which is something we never had with Java or, worse, Flash. I liked a lot Java Applets. It was fantastic to be able to draw pixels or use a toolkit in a
by vmorgulis 11y ago
> ... which is something we never had with Java or, worse, Flash.
I liked a lot Java Applets. It was fantastic to be able to draw pixels or use a toolkit in a web browser at that time.
I gave up Java near after the dispute between Sun and Microsoft about J++. Java was far less interesting for me without that feature.
- lmm 11y agoI had a thought a couple of days ago: what if Mozilla (or anyone) made a web-native runtime for Java applets to replace the plugin, in the same way that Mozilla made a web-native PDF renderer to replace that plugin? That would give us the good of Java applets - a well-specified, mature, backward-compatible bytecode with a built-in security model - without the bad of performance, poor UX, and your programs being trapped in a rectangle that the browser knew nothing about.
- pcwalton 11y agojs2me: https://github.com/szatkus/js2me https://github.com/szatkus/js2me It didn't get much traction because nobody really wants to program in Java on the client if there are alternatives.
- lmm 11y agoJava ME is not Java. Compatibility with existing applets would require implementing more. Java is not the best (though it's better than JavaScript, and android contradicts your claim), but JVM bytecode as a target is great.