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The problem with that is there are certain parts of IT where you would never, ever, ever have a job if you adhered to that. Security, for example. If the compan
by freehunter 11y ago
The problem with that is there are certain parts of IT where you would never, ever, ever have a job if you adhered to that. Security, for example. If the company is under 150 employees, they probably don't have a security team. They probably aren't developing security applications or products. If they aren, they're probably not very successful (or are about to be bought out by a big company).
And I would wager that 80% of all IT employment is done at companies where IT is not their main source of income. At that point, you're automatically a cost center. Your second rule is saying "never work anywhere that doesn't produce technology as their main business", which forces everyone to live in San Fransisco.
Besides, IT is not a cost center for IBM, it's part of their core business. And they still lay people off.
- jayhuang 11y ago> which forces everyone to live in San Fransisco. SF is hardly the only place on the planet where tech is their direct business.
- borvo 11y agoI don't live in San Francisco and my tribe makes a good living out of software product development.
- Phlarp 11y agoBacking this up with more anecdata, I have had zero problems finding excellent offers at firms where technology is "the product" not just a cost to be cut, and far from the valley at that!
- freehunter 11y agoBut because my anecdotes are just as good as anyone else's, the place where I started my career has plenty of 20-30 yr veterans in their IT department, and they are a warehouse company with an IT staff of over 200 people but their tech doesn't directly make them any money at all. That's a long stable career in IT in a department bigger than what he wants the entire company to be where IT is a cost center. If you're limiting yourself to tiny tech companies, you're missing out on a lot. Maybe company size and products sold aren't necessarily a good indicator of your career success...?
- bogomipz 11y agopeople who make knucklehead statements like "which forces everyone to live in San Fransisco", is one of the reasons why I don't live in SF.
- nekitamo 11y agoThere are plenty of companies with under 150 employees who do solely security, and who develop security applications and products.
- gaius 11y agoThe cost centre model is silly. Marketing is a cost centre. HR is a cost centre. Why does only IT get cut?
- mateo411 11y agoLayoffs and reorganizations affect those departments too.