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> The so-called "conspiracy" of "Saudi princes", "Russian oil interests" and other "petro-moguls" is just populist claptrap basically. It's amazing that a pers
by lionhearted 17y ago
> The so-called "conspiracy" of "Saudi princes", "Russian oil interests" and other "petro-moguls" is just populist claptrap basically.
It's amazing that a person can make the claim that it's ridiculous that there could be any widespread foul play amongst mainstream climate scientists - what are you, some kind of conspiracy nut? Then in the same piece, the person will turn around and point out that it's incredibly obvious that there must be widespread foul play and collusion between oil producers, Saudi Princes, the Republican Party, and Fox News.
How do they do that with a straight face? Climate science is a much smaller, much more unified community with only a few major journals and a generally accepted and favorable political position. Industry, politics, media, and foreign governments have widely different and diverging goals. So they claim it's impossible that the small, similarly backgrounded group with similar goals colludes and you'd be a conspiracy nut for even suggesting that it might be possible. And at the same time, they claim it's incredibly obvious that the large, not unified, competing goals groups are colluding. How the heck do they do that with a straight face?
- cletus 17y ago> It's amazing that a person can make the claim that it's ridiculous that there could be any widespread foul play amongst mainstream climate scientists Actually I referred to the CRU in particular. You know, the source of the emails. Pointing to share ownership (7%?) by Saudi princes as proof of anything is the scientific equivalent of the boogeyman. > Climate science is a much smaller, much more unified community Some might argue that it's easier to collude the smaller the group gets. My main point is that the so-called Climategate emails demonstrate a failure of the scientific process. Lack of transparency is a huge problem that everyone should be concerned about regardless of their position.
- vannevar 17y agoYou guys get that you're both on the same side, right? Climatologists are conspiring to take over the world and all that? Just thought I'd save you some time.