> why should we believe that these people will pay attention when their arguments are refuted again and again and again? That's the burden that you carry if yo

> why should we believe that these people will pay attention when their arguments are refuted again and again and again? That's the burden that you carry if you wish to be sensible and mature when discussing with people. Some people are stupid, but you can't sink to that level. Starting to throw mud and call names isn't the right way to deal with stubborn people, and shows a lack of grace and maturity when people do it.