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He's the generally agreed world's best player (and only 20-years-old). but he might not have seen the true strength of AlphaGo. After analyzing the games, it's
by fhe 11y ago
He's the generally agreed world's best player (and only 20-years-old). but he might not have seen the true strength of AlphaGo. After analyzing the games, it's apparent that AlphaGo only tries to win, and does not try to win by a large margin. Translate that strategy into game play, AlphaGo seems to always try to stay ahead of its opponent by a few points, and often trades an optimal move by a less-profitable one but one that's much safer. So even though the two games with Lee have been close, no one has any idea how strong AlphaGo really is.
- kerkeslager 11y agoI'd describe that a little differently: I think AlphGo's choosing safer moves shows strength. In go you don't get any extra credit for winning by more; a win by 0.5 is equivalent to a win by 50.5. As such there is no incentive to fight for wins at a higher margin. If a more aggressive move is riskier or harder to read (it usually is) there is actually a disincentive to play it. I can't tell you how many games I've lost because I misread a complicated variation which I could have avoided entirely when I was ahead.
- hodwik 11y ago>"I can't tell you how many games I've lost because I misread a complicated variation which I could have avoided entirely when I was ahead." Isn't that Go in a nutshell though.
- tyh 11y ago>"a win by 0.5 is equivalent to a win by 50.5 It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning." Which reminds me of some wisdom from Dominic Toretto "It don't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning."
- SixSigma 11y ago“The secret [to motor racing]”, said Niki Lauda, “is to win going as slowly as possible”
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- Jonovono 11y agoI'm sure this has been discussed, but why not have two AlphaGo play each other?
- rst 11y agoThat's, in effect, how they train it -- they've done literally thousands of these. What they haven't done (yet) is published the moves of those games for external review.
- awjr 11y agoThis was being discussed on the radio the other day. They stated it had played 30 million games against itself.
- lintiness 11y agobecause it would create a singularity that would swallow the known universe.
- amckenna 11y agoTo be pedantic - he was born in 1997 so he is 18 or 19 years old.