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As a publisher, you should say fuck you to the ads networks that pay you to track your readers, not to the readers trying to protect themselves.

by marklgr 11y ago

herbst 11y ago
I dont. Its the decision of my readers if they want that. I dont care about adsense tracking at all, its not harming me, i am more afraid of other companies tracking which are not as secure and somehow privacy respecting as google.
- pdkl95 11y ago
  > its not harming me You're selling out your readers, who are harmed by that. The cross-site aggregation that Google does is far more harmful (see: "pattern of life" analysis) than a smaller tracker with bad security. This makes you just as responsible.
  - herbst 11y ago
    Its how the internet works, i am not happy with it ether and tell anyone to use a AdBlocker plus something like PrivacyBatcher. Hence i am in the progress to block all this directly on my Firewall. My point is its the users responsibility to protect himself, if he goes on the Internet without any idea whats going on its just naive and my ads are the smallest of his problems.
    - pdkl95 11y ago
      Please stop blaming the victims. Yes, it's a good idea for people to defend themselves. That doesn't make publishers any less responsible when they betray their readers to aggregators like Google. > As publisher You're telling your readers they need to talk to some other host - which may be owned by Google or similar - to get part of the page. Then you claim that it's their fault for being stupid (really: ignorant) enough to listen to you?
    - herbst 11y ago
      I dont think Google is particularly bad and that its a bad thing they are analyzing their traffic to deliver custom tailored ads. Yeah i actually prefer them by far over the classic ad approach, i rather see things i am probably interested in. I dont want to be tracked personally. That does not mean that other people who also use Windows, iPhones, Dropbox and whatever even care. Why would i tell them obivous things they dont even care about? Not sure what gives you the idea that i would depend parts of my site to external services, i dont even use S3/AWS even thought thats industry standard. My sites work perfectly without ads, i even include ads in a way that they get invisible when blocked, so there are no UI (or any other) issues for people who prefer to block them. I am not going to play the internet hero and miss out on my awesome extra income just because some people have radical thoughts about Google. It may makes you happy that i only have ads on sites which are worth it, but all the others have Adsense, so i assume you dont care. Edit:// I also use Cloudflare if that helps ;)

As a publisher, you should say fuck you to the ads networks that pay you to track your readers, not to the readers trying to protect themselves.

by marklgr 11y ago

As a publisher, you should say fuck you to the ads networks that pay you to track your readers, not to the readers trying to protect themselves.

herbst 11y ago

I dont. Its the decision of my readers if they want that. I dont care about adsense tracking at all, its not harming me, i am more afraid of other companies tracking which are not as secure and somehow privacy respecting as google.

pdkl95 11y ago
> its not harming me You're selling out your readers, who are harmed by that. The cross-site aggregation that Google does is far more harmful (see: "pattern of life" analysis) than a smaller tracker with bad security. This makes you just as responsible.
- herbst 11y ago
  Its how the internet works, i am not happy with it ether and tell anyone to use a AdBlocker plus something like PrivacyBatcher. Hence i am in the progress to block all this directly on my Firewall. My point is its the users responsibility to protect himself, if he goes on the Internet without any idea whats going on its just naive and my ads are the smallest of his problems.
  - pdkl95 11y ago
    Please stop blaming the victims. Yes, it's a good idea for people to defend themselves. That doesn't make publishers any less responsible when they betray their readers to aggregators like Google. > As publisher You're telling your readers they need to talk to some other host - which may be owned by Google or similar - to get part of the page. Then you claim that it's their fault for being stupid (really: ignorant) enough to listen to you?
  - herbst 11y ago
    I dont think Google is particularly bad and that its a bad thing they are analyzing their traffic to deliver custom tailored ads. Yeah i actually prefer them by far over the classic ad approach, i rather see things i am probably interested in. I dont want to be tracked personally. That does not mean that other people who also use Windows, iPhones, Dropbox and whatever even care. Why would i tell them obivous things they dont even care about? Not sure what gives you the idea that i would depend parts of my site to external services, i dont even use S3/AWS even thought thats industry standard. My sites work perfectly without ads, i even include ads in a way that they get invisible when blocked, so there are no UI (or any other) issues for people who prefer to block them. I am not going to play the internet hero and miss out on my awesome extra income just because some people have radical thoughts about Google. It may makes you happy that i only have ads on sites which are worth it, but all the others have Adsense, so i assume you dont care. Edit:// I also use Cloudflare if that helps ;)