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Ah, how wonderful it will be to live in a world without embrace and extend. Wait. systemd, kdbus, GNOME and systemd-udevd. Shit. We have met the enemy, and be

• simoncion 11y ago
  Well, the "peanut gallery" [0] pushed back on kdbus back in the 4.1 merge window and -incredibly- it looks like the devs in charge of kdbus are redesigning it. (kdbus may or may not now be called bus1... it's not clear at this point.) Last I checked, kdbus isn't even being shipped in Fedora latest anymore. [0] AKA: The engineers in charge of QA and technical critique of major changes to the Linux kernel.
  • qwertyuiop924 11y ago
    Thank god. dbus has no business being in the kernel. In fact, Linus said that the problem was just that dbus was coded poorly, and that it could probably perform well in userspace. But Greg wanted it in, and Linus trusts Greg... I mean, honestly. Go look at some of Linus's usenet postings circa 1990-2005. This is exactly the kind of thing that he said should never, EVER, go into the kernel.
• anonbanker 11y ago
  I know you're being downvoted, but I spent the better part of today dealing with a Linux Mint Debian Edition (Jessie) install that decided to install systemd in an update. the original install had no systemd. I explicitly installed sysvinit in order to purge it fully. Today's apt-get dist-upgrade (and reboot to newer kernel) brought me this unwelcome surprise. Therefore, I made today the day I officially switched my last debian system over to Devuan[0], which was easier than I imagined. No more systemd, or packages depending on it. 0. https://devuan.org/ https://devuan.org/