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I do not understand "Good Hacking is a gift" remark. I would love if Tesla's were open for hacking but a previous article [0] pointed out that there appears to

by fosco 11y ago

I do not understand "Good Hacking is a gift" remark. I would love if Tesla's were open for hacking but a previous article [0] pointed out that there appears to be a strong stance [1] against this. Disclosure:I am a huge fan of the Tesla brand, just cautiously optimistic. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11233898 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11233898 [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11234465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11234465

condescendence 11y ago
Elon Musk is someone who takes personal offense to criticism of his company/products. If a hack is to showoff an awesome new car, which this is the case, I doubt he would have any issues with it. On the other hand, if some guy found a major security flaw and posted it all over the internet I bet the car would be remotely driven into a brick wall at 100mph+ with the driver inside. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/michael-hastings-car-hacked_n_3492339.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/michael-hastings-ca...
- gherkin0 11y ago
  > On the other hand, if some guy found a major security flaw and posted it all over the internet I bet the car would be remotely driven into a brick wall at 100mph+ with the driver inside. That's a bit much. They'd probably just revoke his license to use their software, leaving him with an expensive brick.
  - adam12 11y ago
    > I bet the car would be remotely driven into a brick wall at 100mph+ with the driver inside. That sounds like something the government would do to your car if they suspected you were a terrorist.
    - ChristianBundy 11y ago
      Or a journalist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hastings_(journalist)#Death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hastings_(journalist)#...
      - jessaustin 11y ago
        Or maybe if your natural gas company's stock were in free-fall?
maratd 11y ago
Elon Musk != Tesla Or at the very least, Elon Musk is the voice of Tesla, but there are many other people who work there. You judge a company by their actions, not their words. I'm a huge fan of what they're doing, but not necessarily how they're doing it. The cars are absolutely awesome. Unfortunately, they only provide service manuals in Massachusetts (where they are required to by law) and charge $100 per day to view them. Do not sell parts to the public. Ports in the car (obd/ethernet/etc.) are disabled by default. API is undocumented/proprietary. No access to OS. No access to diagnostic information. Very similar to how Apple does things.
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- nivla 11y ago
  > Elon Musk != Tesla He is the CEO, he is responsible for the actions of his employees that are work related. Under the same guise, he shouldn't receive praises for anything everyone else under him does either.

by fosco 11y ago

condescendence 11y ago

Elon Musk is someone who takes personal offense to criticism of his company/products. If a hack is to showoff an awesome new car, which this is the case, I doubt he would have any issues with it. On the other hand, if some guy found a major security flaw and posted it all over the internet I bet the car would be remotely driven into a brick wall at 100mph+ with the driver inside. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/michael-hastings-car-hacked_n_3492339.html http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/24/michael-hastings-ca...

gherkin0 11y ago
> On the other hand, if some guy found a major security flaw and posted it all over the internet I bet the car would be remotely driven into a brick wall at 100mph+ with the driver inside. That's a bit much. They'd probably just revoke his license to use their software, leaving him with an expensive brick.
- adam12 11y ago
  > I bet the car would be remotely driven into a brick wall at 100mph+ with the driver inside. That sounds like something the government would do to your car if they suspected you were a terrorist.
  - ChristianBundy 11y ago
    Or a journalist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hastings_(journalist)#Death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Hastings_(journalist)#...
    - jessaustin 11y ago
      Or maybe if your natural gas company's stock were in free-fall?

maratd 11y ago

Elon Musk != Tesla Or at the very least, Elon Musk is the voice of Tesla, but there are many other people who work there. You judge a company by their actions, not their words. I'm a huge fan of what they're doing, but not necessarily how they're doing it. The cars are absolutely awesome. Unfortunately, they only provide service manuals in Massachusetts (where they are required to by law) and charge $100 per day to view them. Do not sell parts to the public. Ports in the car (obd/ethernet/etc.) are disabled by default. API is undocumented/proprietary. No access to OS. No access to diagnostic information. Very similar to how Apple does things.

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nivla 11y ago
> Elon Musk != Tesla He is the CEO, he is responsible for the actions of his employees that are work related. Under the same guise, he shouldn't receive praises for anything everyone else under him does either.