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JetBrains Toolbox–Release and Versioning Changes

49 points by EddieRingle 11y ago

chiph 11y ago
I like the yyyy.r.n versioning scheme, as it does tell you unequivocally how "new" a release is. No wondering if product version 7 was released in 2012 or 2014. I've never been able to convince an employer to switch to it though.
- kozukumi 11y ago
  Yeah I prefer year version numbers too. Makes life easier to know how up to date everything is from a glance.
- Someone1234 11y ago
  > I've never been able to convince an employer to switch to it though. And there's no point now. Just get them to switch to Visual Studio 2015 and you'll gain most of the key features, and less of the lag/bugs/memory usage. Between VS having Resharper's features built in, and Microsoft making it easier than ever to find and install VS extensions, Resharper's days are numbered (in particular as they've said they have no plans to reform their extension to use Roslyn). I'm moving away from Resharper after my current update subscription expires.
  - homarp 11y ago
    >>I like the yyyy.r.n versioning scheme[...] >> I've never been able to convince an employer to switch to [this yyyy.r.n versioning scheme] though. How is this related with Resharper and VS?
    - Someone1234 11y ago
      I read it as they weren't able to convince their employer to switch to the Jetbrains Toolbox. Regardless I am unable to remove the above comment now so...
  - vetinari 11y ago
    > And there's no point now. Just get them to switch to Visual Studio 2015 and you'll gain most of the key features, and less of the lag/bugs/memory usage. There's always a point. I don't suppose that VS integrates well with JBoss or other J2EE appservers, for example, or does run on OSX or Linux machines.
    - nextweek2 11y ago
      Visual Studio Code is a breath of fresh air. It is cross platform, support lots of languages (including Java) and it's very extensible with plugins. Whilst IDE's and editors are very much a bike shed topic, I've stopped using WebStorm for VSCode because it's got so much going for it. It would be interesting to hear from any Java developers that have tried VSCode.
  - rat87 11y ago
    > Between VS having Resharper's features built in I seriously doubt that.
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LoneWolf 11y ago
While it won't change anything to me since I have an old perpetual license (that I will upgrade to subscription), but it does indeed make more sense with the subscription model, the updates look more like rolling updates than versions.
gjvc 11y ago
Perforce have done this for a long time.
kevinherron 11y ago
Sounds good to me.
gsibble 11y ago
The only confusing part for me is now we won't know which upgrades are major revisions and which are minor. How will I get all excited for a whole new release of Pycharm instead of a minor bug fix?

49 points by EddieRingle 11y ago

chiph 11y ago

I like the yyyy.r.n versioning scheme, as it does tell you unequivocally how "new" a release is. No wondering if product version 7 was released in 2012 or 2014. I've never been able to convince an employer to switch to it though.

kozukumi 11y ago
Yeah I prefer year version numbers too. Makes life easier to know how up to date everything is from a glance.
Someone1234 11y ago
> I've never been able to convince an employer to switch to it though. And there's no point now. Just get them to switch to Visual Studio 2015 and you'll gain most of the key features, and less of the lag/bugs/memory usage. Between VS having Resharper's features built in, and Microsoft making it easier than ever to find and install VS extensions, Resharper's days are numbered (in particular as they've said they have no plans to reform their extension to use Roslyn). I'm moving away from Resharper after my current update subscription expires.
- homarp 11y ago
  >>I like the yyyy.r.n versioning scheme[...] >> I've never been able to convince an employer to switch to [this yyyy.r.n versioning scheme] though. How is this related with Resharper and VS?
  - Someone1234 11y ago
    I read it as they weren't able to convince their employer to switch to the Jetbrains Toolbox. Regardless I am unable to remove the above comment now so...
- vetinari 11y ago
  > And there's no point now. Just get them to switch to Visual Studio 2015 and you'll gain most of the key features, and less of the lag/bugs/memory usage. There's always a point. I don't suppose that VS integrates well with JBoss or other J2EE appservers, for example, or does run on OSX or Linux machines.
  - nextweek2 11y ago
    Visual Studio Code is a breath of fresh air. It is cross platform, support lots of languages (including Java) and it's very extensible with plugins. Whilst IDE's and editors are very much a bike shed topic, I've stopped using WebStorm for VSCode because it's got so much going for it. It would be interesting to hear from any Java developers that have tried VSCode.
- rat87 11y ago
  > Between VS having Resharper's features built in I seriously doubt that.

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LoneWolf 11y ago

While it won't change anything to me since I have an old perpetual license (that I will upgrade to subscription), but it does indeed make more sense with the subscription model, the updates look more like rolling updates than versions.

gjvc 11y ago

Perforce have done this for a long time.

kevinherron 11y ago

Sounds good to me.

gsibble 11y ago

The only confusing part for me is now we won't know which upgrades are major revisions and which are minor. How will I get all excited for a whole new release of Pycharm instead of a minor bug fix?