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It would be nice if they could at least keep the documentation up to date on which MinGW-W64 builds work and which don't etc. I just don't have the time to muck

It would be nice if they could at least keep the documentation up to date on which MinGW-W64 builds work and which don't etc. I just don't have the time to muck around with things when I can just grab a MinGW build and it "just works" out of the box. With how friendly Microsoft are getting with Clang I was hoping we might see a LLVM+MSVCHeaders build appear. I am sure it is possible considering the new MS. I know I am lazy in wanting a one-click solution but my build environment is very important to me. I don't want to have to hack it together using blog posts from 6 months ago that might or might not give me a stable setup. I don't think it is too much to ask for something like TDM's GCC installer.

jibsen 11y ago
You might like Clang with Microsoft CodeGen[1], a work in progress by Microsoft to add a Clang toolset to Visual Studio 2015 that uses the MSVC backend. [1]: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2015/12/04/clang-with-microsoft-codegen-in-vs-2015-update-1/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2015/12/04/clang-wit...
- kozukumi 11y ago
  Yeah I have been following the Clang\C2 work. I guess that is what the LLVM project would rather work with Microsoft towards rather than rolling their own. It will certainly make life easier for cross-platform C++ to use Clang/C2 over C1/C2. Having to install Visual Studio to get it is a bit annoying though, I would prefer to fire up a VM with just Clang and the MSVC/Windows headers to command line compile. Visual Studio is a big install inside a VM which is annoying. I quick question you may know the answer to, does the Windows SDK not come with the Windows C++ headers anymore? I installed the Windows 10 1511 SDK the other day but even a full install didn't give me any of the stdlib which I thought it would do? I understand they removed the compilers but I thought the headers still came with it?
  - tavert 11y ago
    Oh, bummer, I even thought the Windows SDK still had the command-line compilers. What's it good for then? Most open-source projects don't even bother supporting MSVC, and I don't blame them one bit. MinGW-w64 gives a significantly less painful route to Windows support, and allows you to pretend MSVC doesn't exist in a lot of cases.
    - kozukumi 11y ago
      I am trying to work out what use the Windows SDK is without Visual Studio (which also includes the Windows SDK!).
- tavert 11y ago
  What benefit does that really have over just using Clang with LLVM codegen though?

jibsen 11y ago

You might like Clang with Microsoft CodeGen[1], a work in progress by Microsoft to add a Clang toolset to Visual Studio 2015 that uses the MSVC backend. [1]: https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2015/12/04/clang-with-microsoft-codegen-in-vs-2015-update-1/ https://blogs.msdn.microsoft.com/vcblog/2015/12/04/clang-wit...

kozukumi 11y ago
Yeah I have been following the Clang\C2 work. I guess that is what the LLVM project would rather work with Microsoft towards rather than rolling their own. It will certainly make life easier for cross-platform C++ to use Clang/C2 over C1/C2. Having to install Visual Studio to get it is a bit annoying though, I would prefer to fire up a VM with just Clang and the MSVC/Windows headers to command line compile. Visual Studio is a big install inside a VM which is annoying. I quick question you may know the answer to, does the Windows SDK not come with the Windows C++ headers anymore? I installed the Windows 10 1511 SDK the other day but even a full install didn't give me any of the stdlib which I thought it would do? I understand they removed the compilers but I thought the headers still came with it?
- tavert 11y ago
  Oh, bummer, I even thought the Windows SDK still had the command-line compilers. What's it good for then? Most open-source projects don't even bother supporting MSVC, and I don't blame them one bit. MinGW-w64 gives a significantly less painful route to Windows support, and allows you to pretend MSVC doesn't exist in a lot of cases.
  - kozukumi 11y ago
    I am trying to work out what use the Windows SDK is without Visual Studio (which also includes the Windows SDK!).
tavert 11y ago
What benefit does that really have over just using Clang with LLVM codegen though?