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I was really expecting Lee Sedol to win here. I'm very excited, and congratulations to the DeepMind team, but I'm a bit sad about the result, as a go player an

I was really expecting Lee Sedol to win here. I'm very excited, and congratulations to the DeepMind team, but I'm a bit sad about the result, as a go player and as a human.

visarga 11y ago
But now every amateur will have access to unlimited play against Lee Sedol-level opponents.
- spacehome 11y ago
  Yea, let me just go home and grab my hundreds of GPUs and CPUs.
  - eru 11y ago
    Renting them in the cloud for a single game should actually not be all that expensive. Around 100 USD per game perhaps? And the price is only going to fall. An Amateur can learn plenty from slightly weaker version on less hardware already.
    - goblinking 11y ago
      Lee Se-dol as a Service!
studentrob 11y ago
If it's any consolation, there are still tons of things humans are far better at than machines.
- atemerev 11y ago
  The only remaining are language-related. Natural languages are the next focal point of AI research.
  - sago 11y ago
    Skill related. I'd be interesting to see how quickly driving AIs take to beat the best human drivers, in a weight-equal vehicle. An algorithmic competitor in formula one, would be interesting.
    - eru 11y ago
      Like http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11410261/Driverless-car-beats-racing-driver-for-first-time.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/1141026... ?
    - genericpseudo 11y ago
      Would be a stomp for the computer; they don't have to respect G-forces.
      - sago 11y ago
        Racing cars aren't limited by the driver's G tolerance, I don't think. They generate 4G-ish, from what I hear on the F1 coverage. Well within driver capabilities. Their G is limited by tyres.
    - d0m 11y ago
      I feel AI could take so much more risk if there's no lives in danger so that would give them an edge.
  - vkou 11y ago
    That, and towel-folding [1]. Humans have a pretty clear edge on that. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy5g33S0Gzo&ab_channel=RLLberkeley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy5g33S0Gzo&ab_channel=RLLbe...
    - TorKlingberg 11y ago
      That is actually a really impressive robot.

I was really expecting Lee Sedol to win here. I'm very excited, and congratulations to the DeepMind team, but I'm a bit sad about the result, as a go player and as a human.

visarga 11y ago

But now every amateur will have access to unlimited play against Lee Sedol-level opponents.

spacehome 11y ago
Yea, let me just go home and grab my hundreds of GPUs and CPUs.
- eru 11y ago
  Renting them in the cloud for a single game should actually not be all that expensive. Around 100 USD per game perhaps? And the price is only going to fall. An Amateur can learn plenty from slightly weaker version on less hardware already.
  - goblinking 11y ago
    Lee Se-dol as a Service!

studentrob 11y ago

If it's any consolation, there are still tons of things humans are far better at than machines.

atemerev 11y ago
The only remaining are language-related. Natural languages are the next focal point of AI research.
- sago 11y ago
  Skill related. I'd be interesting to see how quickly driving AIs take to beat the best human drivers, in a weight-equal vehicle. An algorithmic competitor in formula one, would be interesting.
  - eru 11y ago
    Like http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11410261/Driverless-car-beats-racing-driver-for-first-time.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/1141026... ?
  - genericpseudo 11y ago
    Would be a stomp for the computer; they don't have to respect G-forces.
    - sago 11y ago
      Racing cars aren't limited by the driver's G tolerance, I don't think. They generate 4G-ish, from what I hear on the F1 coverage. Well within driver capabilities. Their G is limited by tyres.
  - d0m 11y ago
    I feel AI could take so much more risk if there's no lives in danger so that would give them an edge.
- vkou 11y ago
  That, and towel-folding [1]. Humans have a pretty clear edge on that. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy5g33S0Gzo&ab_channel=RLLberkeley https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy5g33S0Gzo&ab_channel=RLLbe...
  - TorKlingberg 11y ago
    That is actually a really impressive robot.