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You'd better get used to that Chinese government, it's here to stay. Besides, what do you want? For the Communist party to devolve into US congress? And about
by dragonbonheur 11y ago
You'd better get used to that Chinese government, it's here to stay. Besides, what do you want? For the Communist party to devolve into US congress?
And about those supposed Chinese people who don't want to stay - just like some minority of the US population doesn't want to pay their fair share of taxes or contribute positively to their local society and have thus mastered the shell company and tax haven game, there exists an equivalent minority of the Chinese population who don't want to do their part either and who are well-off enough to be noticed by foreign media when they move in expensive neighborhoods in western countries. The Chinese population being higher, that percentage of rich people fleeing will also be higher.
And about China being taken seriously - are you really that naïve NOT to take them seriously? Do you not take the formidable number of Chinese people that have been lifted off abject poverty seriously?
Do you not take the millions of kilometers of railroad that have been built both within and outside China by Chinese companies and people seriously?
Do you not take the infrastructure that has been built, no questions asked, in Africa seriously while western nations have only taken from Africa while giving nothing in return except conflict and weapons?
Do you not take seriously the information that a Chinese company, COSCO, recently became the operator of Greece's ports?
Do you not take seriously that Chinese entrepreneurs, often being from a modest background themselves, left their country for Sub-Saharian Africa and Egypt and even Ethiopia and have become of the main providers of employment and growth and even HOPE-you-can-believe-in in those countries?
I'm not a "China thumper", I'm not Chinese or even Asian - I just see the world as it is. I've seen the corruption in US government and I know about the pentagon's revolving door. It's also obvious that the British and to a somewhat lesser extent the French governments are sellouts of the oligarchs. If you want to argue about corruption in the Chinese government know first that their officials and their families are shown what life is like in prison when they take office so that they know the consequences of temptation.
Maybe next you'd want to argue that China allegedly "stole" some islands in the South China Sea and is now threatening everyone, allegedly. Well, I'd argue that in 2011 an agreement was reached among SOVEREIGN (very important here and thus in caps) ASEAN nations and the Philippines decided to call in the oh-so-righteous United States to get things moving in their favor, thus the current clusterfuck.
And besides the US and Britain already set the precedent by stealing the Chagos Archipelago and within it, Diego Garcia. Also note that they also unceremoniously removed all the inhabitants of these islands who were only allowed to carry ONE SINGLE BRIEFCASE worth of their possessions when they were put in the bottom of boats where quite a few got ill and even died.
Then the US and Britain went on and declared the Chagos a marine protected area to obliterate any possibility that the Chagossians could return to their land.
A marine protected area where they could safely keep nuclear weapons...
What China is doing in the South China Sea, building islands and infrastructure to fight against piracy and more important, ensure safe harbor for ships in a world that will be increasingly affected by climate change, is patty cakes in comparison to what western nations have done.
I believe the world needs balance - therefore it can't all be the oh-so-righteous Western system of "governance". A balance of power, a balance of opinions, a balance of superpowers. And having seen how corrupt and destructive Western governments have been and can be, my opinion -and mine only - is that China represent a good counterpoint to that corruption and destruction. China represents progress and hope in the long run. It's more likely that universal basic income and a post-scarcity society will come,and will be sustained, from Chinese culture and system of government than anywhere else. Why? Because it's the country where even farmers are crazy enough to build helicopters, submarines and robots for a hobby and in this world, the ones who are crazy enough to think they can change the world are the ones who do.
- idra 11y agoTypical "50 cent troll" rhetoric. "The US and Britain have done bad things, so China can do them too". In fact, most of the points you've made are untrue and reek of CCP propaganda. >Do you not take the formidable number of Chinese people that have been lifted off abject poverty seriously? After China's own government has driven the entire country into famine and poverty, and destroyed any lingering of culture the country had. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Leap_Forward https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Revolution > Do you not take the millions of kilometers of railroad that have been built both within and outside China by Chinese companies and people seriously? Built quickly and shoddily with no safety standards. The major aim of building the high-speed rail network was to boost the GDP. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/world/asia/18rail.html http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/18/world/asia/18rail.html https://www.hongkongfp.com/2015/08/07/70-of-chinese-train-components-fail-safety-standards-chinas-railway-operator-reveals/ https://www.hongkongfp.com/2015/08/07/70-of-chinese-train-co... > Do you not take the infrastructure that has been built, no questions asked, in Africa seriously while western nations have only taken from Africa while giving nothing in return except conflict and weapons? > Do you not take seriously that Chinese entrepreneurs, often being from a modest background themselves, left their country for Sub-Saharian Africa and Egypt and even Ethiopia and have become of the main providers of employment and growth and even HOPE-you-can-believe-in in those countries? China has been routinely called "the new colonialists" for their actions in Africa. http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/china-in-africa-the-new-imperialists http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/china-in-africa-the-... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-26328763 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-echochambers-26328763 >Do you not take seriously the information that a Chinese company, COSCO, recently became the operator of Greece's ports? Sole bid. No one else wanted it. http://www.wsj.com/articles/china-cosco-makes-sole-bid-for-greek-port-of-piraeus-1452619800 http://www.wsj.com/articles/china-cosco-makes-sole-bid-for-g... I'm not even going to start on your ridiculous claim about China "building islands and infrastructure to fight against piracy and more important, ensure safe harbor for ships in a world that will be increasingly affected by climate change" in the South China Sea, which is so bizarre that it needs no refutal. So, no, I don't take whatever you say seriously. In fact, I think you are a shill paid by the Chinese government to post this.